I wish Joe the tax-evader, not-really-a-plumber, not-buying-a-business, would-benefit-under-obama-tax-plan, and not-even-named-Joe would go away already. It just doesn't seem conceivable that a unknown "plumber" can become some kind of authority on foreign policy and politics over night just because he asked a question based on false premises to Obama? Anything he says should automatically be dismissed as shit that goes in a toilet he isn't even licensed to unplug.

(reading the thread backwards, sorry)