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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Don Cardi] #512851
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Our local paper has some of the most entertaining and "thought-provoking" opinion pieces. I found this one particularly.....stimulating. I thought you might find it helpful in deciding who to vote for. wink

From the "Voice of the People" section of The Press of Atlantic City, Sept. 29, 2008


Palin callous toward animals
Sarah Palin is an attractive woman, but there is much callousness hiding behind her polished appearance. While her religious fanaticism, contempt for science, poor parental skills, cronyism and secrecy hardly qualify her as a vice presidential candidate, the most worrisome aspect of her character is her total disdain for animals.

Palin has the safari mentality of past centuries and may never have met an animal she didn't want shot. She takes pride and enjoyment in killing her defenseless victims and has often posed in front of their carcasses.

As governor, she promoted airplane shooting of bears and wolves and offered a bounty for wolf paws to encourage the slaughter, even though such predator extermination defies wildlife-management common sense. Also, against the opinion of wildlife experts, she denied protection to endangered polar bears and beluga whales for the sake of corporate interests.

Evidently, Palin is a ruthless and deeply disturbed individual. The thought that she might some day control the nuclear button is truly frightening.

FRANCIS DUMONT
Egg Harbor Township


I wonder if Francis has pets??


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: MaryCas] #512856
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IMHO that article stinks.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Mignon] #512858
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I have no interest in hunting, but my brother-in-law is a avid hunter. To each their own.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Just Lou] #512867
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There are hunters who enjoy employing their skills and who want to eat what they kill. I have no problem with hunters. As a matter of fact, while lots of people will shed tears over "Bambi" being shot, I see what overpopulation has done when I see mangled cars and equally mangled deer carcasses on an almost weekly basis on my drive to work. There's a sportsmanship to hunting that I can understand. Plus, I'm a carnivore. It would be rather hypocritical to condemn someone for shooting a deer and eating venison while I'm chowing down on a big old steak.

However, shooting animals from the air? That seems horrible and extremely unsportsmanlike.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #512869
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I guess PETA won't be asking her to pose nude anytime soon. whistle


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #512875
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
There are hunters who enjoy employing their skills and who want to eat what they kill. I have no problem with hunters. As a matter of fact, while lots of people will shed tears over "Bambi" being shot, I see what overpopulation has done when I see mangled cars and equally mangled deer carcasses on an almost weekly basis on my drive to work. There's a sportsmanship to hunting that I can understand. Plus, I'm a carnivore. It would be rather hypocritical to condemn someone for shooting a deer and eating venison while I'm chowing down on a big old steak.

However, shooting animals from the air? That seems horrible and extremely unsportsmanlike.


My hubby loves to hunt no only for the kill itself (if he has good enough aim) but he likes being out in the weather elements rain or snow on the hunt. Gun season is coming up in November. I better make room in the freezer(just in case)

SB, I don't like the idea from shooting from the air though.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Mignon] #512885
10/01/08 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mignon
Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO

So you're voting for someone that won't preside our nation...

Who exactly VOTES for the Vice-President? I mean come on, who will make the big decisions and preside over agendas and shit? McCain.



You are putting words in my mouth. I said I like her (Palin)but I am voting for the lesser of the two evils between McCain and the messiah Obama. DUH!!!


Sorry, but with the train of thought as put down by you, you acted like you were voting more for Palin than McCain.

BTW Mig, can you name a Supreme Court case besides Roe/Wade? wink

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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #512889
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I guess PETA won't be asking her to pose nude anytime soon. whistle


No, but MILF MONTHLY still might...

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #512892
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Obama has visited 57 states?



Yes, I realize that he simply misspoke, but I have a feeling that some of you on here would have been quick to post this had McCain or Palin said it, in another effort to discredit them.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #512893
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
[BTW Mig, can you name a Supreme Court case besides Roe/Wade? wink


To tell you the truth I can't. Why???


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #512897
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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Freddie C.] #512898
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Originally Posted By: Freddie C.
Obama has visited 57 states?



Yes, I realize that he simply misspoke, but I have a feeling that some of you on here would have been quick to post this had McCain or Palin said it, in another effort to discredit them.


Good to see that you didn't need anyone's permission to post anything.

Anyway, you might have a point.

Then again, Obama is green in gaffes compared to Biden.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Mignon] #512900
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Originally Posted By: Mignon
Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
[BTW Mig, can you name a Supreme Court case besides Roe/Wade? wink


To tell you the truth I can't. Why???


Because in the recent Couric interview at CBS News, Palin couldn't name one single Supreme Court case besides Roe/Wade.

The law bores me in general, but I can name a handful instantly, like:

Brown/Board of Education (desegregated public schools)
Nixon/United States (his tapes not protected by executive privlege)
Clinton/New York City (Line-Item Veto struck down)
McCullum/Maryland (Federal authority over the states)
The Dred Scott decision (struck down Missouri Compromise)
Bush/Gore (sealed election for Dubya)

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #512903
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Don't be ashamed in sharing the same name, McCains for Obama!

http://mccainsforobama.com/

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #512904
10/01/08 08:33 PM
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I wonder how may Couric can name? HA!HA!HA!


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Freddie C.] #512906
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Originally Posted By: Freddie C.
Obama has visited 57 states?
Yes, I realize that he simply misspoke, but I have a feeling that some of you on here would have been quick to post this had McCain or Palin said it, in another effort to discredit them.


There's a good reason for posting it - it's funny. lol


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #512909
10/01/08 08:36 PM
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I wonder why his staff wouldn't allow him to go to Alaska or Hawaii?


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Mignon] #512914
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Originally Posted By: Mignon
I wonder why his staff wouldn't allow him to go to Alaska or Hawaii?


Probably because their total of 7 electoral votes aren't going to mean squat in the election. Plus, he was raised in Hawaii and most likely doesn't need to waste time or money campaigning there.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Mignon] #512915
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Can we vote a split ticket? Obama/Palin?


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #512917
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Originally Posted By: Mignon
I wonder why his staff wouldn't allow him to go to Alaska or Hawaii?


Probably because their total of 7 electoral votes aren't going to mean squat in the election. Plus, he was raised in Hawaii and most likely doesn't need to waste time or money campaigning there.


I understand you really need to hit the swing states but shouldn't you hit all the states at least once?


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: MaryCas] #512919
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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Can we vote a split ticket? Obama/Palin?


It "could" happen.

269 tie


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #512924
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe


I'm a carnivore. It would be rather hypocritical to condemn someone for shooting a deer and eating venison while I'm chowing down on a big old steak.

However, shooting animals from the air? That seems horrible and extremely unsportsmanlike.


At a standard beef slaughterhouse, approximately 250 cattle are killed every hour. They have their horns sliced off, they are branded, which obviously causes excruciating third-degree burns. On many occassions they are shipped without food or water to these slaughterhouses, and then a metal rod is shot through their brains and they are hung upside-down and have their throats slit. This is what is known as stunning. Because of time constraints, inadequate stunning is inevitable which usually means that a conscious animal is hanged upside down, kicking and struggling and bleeding to death.

However shooting animals from the air is much more horrible and extremely unsportsmanlike.



Don Cardi cool

Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.




Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Don Cardi] #512926
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I have a sudden urge for a hamburger.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Don Cardi] #512927
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OK, DC. I'll remind you of that little diatribe the next time you go to Shula's. rolleyes I SAID that it would be hypocritical of me to criticize a hunter since I'm a carnivore, or didn't I??

I don't object to the death of an animal if it's being slaughtered for food. However, there's not much of a market for wolf meat that I know of. It's not even a fur that people wear. So why would she advocate the shooting of wolves from the air, and put a bounty on their paws?


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #512928
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
So why would she advocate the shooting of wolves from the air, and put a bounty on their paws?


Simple. McCain told her to PAUSE and think before she answered any more questions.


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Originally Posted By: SC
I have a sudden urge for a hamburger.


Rare and bloody, I would guess.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Freddie C.] #512932
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Originally Posted By: Freddie C.


Yes, I realize that he simply misspoke, but I have a feeling that some of you on here would have been quick to post this had McCain or Palin said it, in another effort to discredit them.


Here's another good one for "your side". Biden tells Chuck Graham to stand up. Only problem is he's in a wheelchair and can't.



Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #512937
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Originally Posted By: SC
I have a sudden urge for a hamburger.


Rare and bloody, I would guess.


Now my stomach hurts.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Mignon] #512939
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Here's Biden's best one yet. "FDR went on Televison when the Stock Market crashed in 1929."


Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Freddie C.] #512940
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Originally Posted By: Freddie C.
Obama has visited 57 states?


Maybe he was thinking of the 2004 election and John Kerry's wife, the former Teresa Heinz, and the "57 Varieties"? lol


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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