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Re: The Movies vs. the Book
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06/01/06 09:40 AM
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Vito, you asked a good question, and SB and Carstonio gave you excellent and succinct answers. I'd just add my two cents: The novel provides more rounded development for some characters. It also has some terrific stories that weren't included in the film, such as Vito's rise, Sonny's rise, Neri's introduction to the family, and how the Bocchicchios helped bring Michael back from Sicily. On the other hand, the novel has a generally rough-edged, hurriedly written quality to it, while the film is nothing if not polished.
Like Carstonio, I found the roman-a-clef aspects irritating. Puzo was one of those authors (like Ian Fleming of James Bond fame) who couldn't resist putting into his novel every bit of erudition he ever accumulated--whether or not the erudition had anything to do with the plot. Johnny Fontaine serves a highly useful purpose at the beginning by helping to define Vito's influence and the range of his caring--excellent. Thereafter, Johnny, and Nino, serve only to enable Puzo to show off what he learned about Hollywood. That Hollywood showboating BS ruined "The Last Don," IMO. And that whole bit about Lucy and Jules was designed so that Puzo could show off what he knew about her operation. Evidently a female relative or friend of his had had the operation, told him about it--and presto, it gets into the novel. It's not only boring, but after a while, you feel as though Puzo took advantage of your interest in his novel.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: The Movies vs. the Book
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06/01/06 01:24 PM
06/01/06 01:24 PM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by Turnbull: Johnny Fontaine serves a highly useful purpose at the beginning by helping to define Vito's influence and the range of his caring--excellent. Thereafter, Johnny, and Nino, serve only to enable Puzo to show off what he learned about Hollywood. We had a similar discussion about this aspect of the book in another thread recently. I disagree with TB's asessment of the imprtance of the Johnny Fontane. I think that except for Vito & Michael, he was meant to be the novel's most important character - and indeed, a fairly hefty portion of the book is taken up by his story, not just those little "insider details" about Hollywood that Puzo had picked up over the years. I think it was MP's intention to draw a paralell between the dishonesty, treachery, and corruption in the business of organized crime and the same characteristics in the supposedley "legitimate" business of Hollywood.
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Re: The Movies vs. the Book
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06/05/06 06:38 AM
06/05/06 06:38 AM
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Walter Mosca
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Turnbull: [QB] the novel has a generally rough-edged, hurriedly written quality to it, while the film is nothing if not polished. [QUOTE]
Yes, I also got that impression. I was both interested and dissapointed to learn that Puzo had intended to write one more draft before it was completed. Oh well, what ya gonna do? bada-bing bada-bum. At least he got the oppertunity to do this with the screenplay...
"Jonny Tightlips... you're shot! - whered' they get you?" "I ain't sayin' nutin'." "But what'll I tell the Doc?!" "Tell'um to suck a lemon."
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Re: The Movies vs. the Book
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06/22/06 09:06 AM
06/22/06 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by SC: ...Calo, Mike's Sicilian bodyguard, was killed by the same bomb as Appolonia in the book; he survives in the movie... The only reason Calo 'survives' in the movie is that the actor who played him was still alive by the time GFIII was made. Otherwise, it probably would've been assumed that the car bomb killed him as well. Apple
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Re: The Movies vs. the Book
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06/22/06 09:12 AM
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isn't he on the other side of the estate, eating or something when he tell's Michael Fabrizio is missing or something like that right before the bomb goes off? (in the movie)
Putting Michael closer to the explosion than he.
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Re: The Movies vs. the Book
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06/22/06 10:09 AM
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stavka
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Nothing beats Don Volpe's appearance in Atlantic City - or maybe Carmine Rosato entered the Witness Protection Program and the US marshals placed him with another mafia "family".
Probably a job he'd be good at I suppose
"I don't shine shoes no more..."
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Re: The Movies vs. the Book
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06/22/06 06:27 PM
06/22/06 06:27 PM
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plawrence
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I agree, Stavka. That's something I never understood. For the same money, they could've had Carmine Caridi reprising the role of Carmine (or was he Tony?) Rosato, adding another character from one of the first two films. The only indication we are given in GF II regarding the fate of the Rosatos was that, according to Hagen, they were "on the run". They certainly could've regrouped and rebuilt their power base, especially with Michael out of New York and Pentangeli out of the picture. They even could've given him a little bit of "Rosato Dialogue", like they did to identify some of the other minor characters from the first two films. Instead, they unnecessarily cast Caridi to play a different role entirely. I wonder why. 
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Re: The Movies vs. the Book
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06/29/06 03:15 PM
06/29/06 03:15 PM
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Kastrioti
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Mostly everything's been covered here already, but one major difference between the book and the movies which I would remark upon would be the existence of Vincent Mancini. In the book, Lucy Mancini's life after Sonny's demise is spelled out in great (I would say too much) detail, and it's terribly obvious that she wasn't carrying Sonny's seed when he kicked off. In the film trilogy, this obviously isn't the case. Presumably, in the universe of the films, she was never shipped off to Vegas to become a semi-big deal at the casino, but instead stayed in the NYC area and raised old Vincenzo on her own.
Al Pacino (Michael): My father is no different than any powerful man, any man with power, like a president or senator. Diane Keaton (Kay): Do you know how naive you sound, Michael? Presidents and senators don't have men killed! Al Pacino (Michael): Oh. Who's being naive, Kay?
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