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what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? #485240
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just curious on what you guys think the moral/message is from the Godfather? or even if you guys think there is a moral to the story?

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: proverbs] #485260
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1. Crime doesn't pay.
2. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: Turnbull] #485311
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1. loyalty is EVERYTHING
2. live by the code... die by the code


"From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn." (King of New York)
Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: FrankWhite] #485312
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Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: Turnbull] #485327
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 Originally Posted By: Turnbull
1. Crime doesn't pay.
2. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.



What goes around comes around.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: dontomasso] #485328
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with regards to who DonT???


"From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn." (King of New York)
Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: FrankWhite] #485348
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There are people in this world who consider other people to simply be expendables to be used and manipulated to satisfy their own avarice.

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Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: olivant] #485382
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One message is that intelligence is an overrated virtue.


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Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: mustachepete] #485394
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Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: Longneck] #492542
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Why do gangsters have an ego?

Even those ones who stratch at small time stuff are full of themselves.

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: MiniMafiaBoss] #492559
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Originally Posted By: MiniMafiaBoss
Why do gangsters have an ego?

Even those ones who stratch at small time stuff are full of themselves.


They're humans.


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: FrankWhite] #492592
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Originally Posted By: FrankWhite
with regards to who DonT???



Don Ciccio, Don Tomassino, Vito, Santino, Michael, Fredo, Connie, All Michael's Enemies, Vincent, Mary, Kay to name a few.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: dontomasso] #492698
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oh ok... but why Santino, Connie, Vincent, and Mary?


"From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn." (King of New York)
Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: FrankWhite] #492802
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Originally Posted By: FrankWhite
oh ok... but why Santino, Connie, Vincent, and Mary?


Santino, in case you didn't notice was murdered as the result of his bad temper and despite Hagen's desperate attempt to stop him from leaving the compound.

Connie, after being widowed, whored around the world, lost her children and was reduced to being Michael's caregiver/substitute Don. After that opera she was alone in the world.

Mary despite warnings that her association with Vincent was dangerous was still arguing her point on the opera steps. If she had gone to the car quickly as instructed she would have lived.

Vincent lot the love of his life and shattered Michael by botching security at the opera.

I'd say those are fairly significant consequences.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: dontomasso] #492804
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What are the different downfalls that a gangster/wannabe can have?

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: MiniMafiaBoss] #492808
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Not being the target of assassination plots.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: dontomasso] #492810
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Downfall is not being a target?

Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: dontomasso] #492989
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Originally Posted By: FrankWhite
oh ok... but why Santino, Connie, Vincent, and Mary?


Santino, in case you didn't notice was murdered as the result of his bad temper and despite Hagen's desperate attempt to stop him from leaving the compound.

Connie, after being widowed, whored around the world, lost her children and was reduced to being Michael's caregiver/substitute Don. After that opera she was alone in the world.

Mary despite warnings that her association with Vincent was dangerous was still arguing her point on the opera steps. If she had gone to the car quickly as instructed she would have lived.

Vincent lot the love of his life and shattered Michael by botching security at the opera.

I'd say those are fairly significant consequences.


um... DT, I kinda see where you're going, but Connie started suffering when she was widowed (which she had NOTHING to do with). And I can see how you can say that Santino being killed was a result and consequence of his hot temper, but when I think of "What goes around, comes around" I think of you doing something to some one and I get the same thing in return.


"From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn." (King of New York)
Re: what is the moral/message of the Godfather?? [Re: FrankWhite] #495784
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  • Blood's a big expense.
  • Don't take any action from fat slobs betting heavy on the Yankees.
  • Chinese food is excellent for those REEEEEEEALLY tense situations.
  • Narcotics is the coming thing, maybe not now but... 10 years from now!
  • Never hire an obnoxiously ambitious, loudmouthed bodyguard.
  • They should've stopped Hitler at Munich.
  • Don't show off your prized animals to mob lawyers.
  • Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
  • Don't lose that famous temper of yours.
  • Try the veal, it's the best in the city.
  • Women and children can be careless but not men. (perhaps the most ironic line in the movie?)
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