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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #488490
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Edwards endorsement pays off for Obama
"I will cast my vote for who John Edwards asks me to," said Robert Groce, a South Carolina delegate won by Edwards.


I'm sorry but doesn't this man have a mind of his own?


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #488538
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Speaking of Gore, I wish he'd show some onions already and back Obama. He's the only Dem heavyweight, other than Pelosi, who hasn't backed someone yet.



I don't disagree with you. But I honestly believe that he is so disinterested in politics right now. I think the 2000 election process took all of his love out of the political game. And for those clamoring for him to be VP, dream on. Why would he want to play second fiddle again?

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #488542
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
No, it is NOT far from over. It's OVER. Get out of the race. What could she possibly hope to accomplish, except to make enemies within the party and get herself deeper into debt??



I think she knows it. She has backed off on criticizing Obama, bt she promised her suporters she would run in every primary, and she should fulfill it. As long as she bows out gracefully after that there is not a huge problem. The key is how sincere both Clintons will be in working to unify the party.

With Bush comparing Obama to Neville Chamberlain in Israel yesterday, this is going to get really ugly really fast.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #488544
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I wonder who wrote that little ditty for Bush?

Like the retard even knows who Neville Chamberlain was.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #488546
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Like the retard even knows who Neville Chamberlain was.


He was a famous basketball player who once scored 100 points in one game.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #488547
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I wonder who wrote that little ditty for Bush?

Like the retard even knows who Neville Chamberlain was.


On Hardball last night Chris Matthews kept asking a GOP spokesperson to state what Chamberlain did that amounted to appeasement. The guy kept avoiding simply saying that he didn't know. Chris kept after him and the guy really looked stupid becuase even the most daft viewer could tell that the guy probably never even heard the name Chamberlain until the President said it.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: olivant] #488551
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I wonder who wrote that little ditty for Bush?

Like the retard even knows who Neville Chamberlain was.


On Hardball last night Chris Matthews kept asking a GOP spokesperson to state what Chamberlain did that amounted to appeasement. The guy kept avoiding simply saying that he didn't know. Chris kept after him and the guy really looked stupid becuase even the most daft viewer could tell that the guy probably never even heard the name Chamberlain until the President said it.


I saw that...it was hilarious. Eventually Matthews cut the idiot off.
Just goes to show Bush doesn't need Karl Rove to do things that are beneah contempt.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #488552
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I know I'm going to get in trouble for this, but what the hell.

In the 49 years that I'm on this planet, I've yet to see a good looking woman offended by being addressed as sweetie. It's always the uggos and the lesbians that complain about it.

There, I said it. lol


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #488558
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I know I'm going to get in trouble for this, but what the hell.

In the 49 years that I'm on this planet, I've yet to see a good looking woman offended by being addressed as sweetie. It's always the uggos and the lesbians that complain about it.

There, I said it. lol


Yeah but the real question is was he wearing his flag lapel pin when he said it.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #488559
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Well, I guess it's okay that McCain called his wife the C-word and got away with it. But sweetie? Dear God, how offensive!!!!


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #488563
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Well, I guess it's okay that McCain called his wife the C-word and got away with it. But sweetie? Dear God, how offensive!!!!


I really hope this gets more media attention. I couldn't even imagine calling my wife such a vile name and living to tell about it. If Obama is forced to turn this thing ugly, which will be difficult not to, sticking McCain with a misogynist label will be fairly easy with the slur against his wife.

And by the way, McCain's wife is way too good looking for him. What she sees in him is beyond me. It's like Anna Nicole and that 89 year old or, like Pizza Boy said, Elaine and Yankee Bean.

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #488567
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I know I'm going to get in trouble for this, but what the hell.

In the 49 years that I'm on this planet, I've yet to see a good looking woman offended by being addressed as sweetie. It's always the uggos and the lesbians that complain about it.

There, I said it. lol


Well, after 60 years of lifeI've concluded that a very large part of troubles in this world are due to people's lack of self-esteem or to gaps in their self-esteem. Indeed, we have far too many people in America who cocoon themselves within the envelope of victim and use it to fil the gaps in their self-esteem. So, it's not surprising that a woman doesn't like that word, but her disliking it is a sign of weakness.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: olivant] #488571
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Its kind of like being in a diner and the waitress, who you never met before calls you "hon."


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #488574
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Its kind of like being in a diner and the waitress, who you never met before calls you "hon."


Exactly!!!!

It's just being "folksy."


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #488586
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Sweetie?? Sweetie?? Puh-leeze! What other things can be invented to take offense to??

The C-Word?? Oh, my. I can't believe that he could say that and still be walking. I assure you, Mr. Babe certainly wouldn't be. IMHO, that is the lowest, most disgusting way that a man could refer to ANY woman, much less his wife. And anyone who would loses all of my respect.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #488591
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Looks like John Edwards will not be Obama's Veep (not that I thought he would be asked).

Edwards flatly rules out running with Obama

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #488593
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe

The C-Word??

Just for my info, are we talking about the same word that gets replaced as Badword in this forum?

That also brings up another question my mind. Why was that word singled out for censorship? Why not the famous F-word that everyone considers to be impolite, even when referring to just gas prices, like that thread we have smile ? or remove the censorship from C-word?

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Originally Posted By: svsg
Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe

The C-Word??

Just for my info, are we talking about the same word that gets replaced as Badword in this forum?

That also brings up another question my mind. Why was that word singled out for censorship? Why not the famous F-word that everyone considers to be impolite, even when referring to just gas prices, like that thread we have smile ? or remove the censorship from C-word?


Both are vulgar and I've inveighed plenty of times on this Board against the use of foul language of any type.

But unlike the F-word which can be used as an invective or simply as an expressionof frustration, the C-word is gender specific and only used in an invective context.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: olivant] #488603
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The last thing McCain should be calling his wife is a "C" She's the reason he's got enough money to keep his campaign going with her being the daughter of a multimillionaire Anheuser-Busch distributor.
And ya,she's definitley too good looking for an old fart like him.

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He's the C-word.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian1] #488617
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian1
The last thing McCain should be calling his wife is a "C" She's the reason he's got enough money to keep his campaign going with her being the daughter of a multimillionaire Anheuser-Busch distributor.
And ya,she's definitley too good looking for an old fart like him.


McBush's bad temper
Maybe he was mad that it was his wife and father-in-law that got him in a mess for investing with Charles H. Keating, Jr.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Saladbar] #488619
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Yes that is quite astonishing isn't it? What an awful awful word to use, let alone directed at your wife. eek I "heard/read" his temper is very well known.

Anyway, I may be a minority, but I think Obama will have a much easier time debating/handling McCain then he did Clinton. Maybe she broke him in. lol He's having a good week though, in spite of his huge loss. I love his comeback to McCain/Bush today.

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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #489247
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Obama leads McCain in November match:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama has opened an 8-point national lead on Republican John McCain as the U.S. presidential rivals turn their focus to a general election race, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

Obama, who was tied with McCain in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup last month, moved to a 48 percent to 40 percent lead over the Arizona senator in May as he took command of his grueling Democratic presidential duel with rival Hillary Clinton.

The Illinois senator has not yet secured the Democratic presidential nomination to run against McCain in November.

The poll also found Obama expanded his lead over Clinton in the Democratic race to 26 percentage points, doubling his advantage from mid-April as Democrats begin to coalesce around Obama and prepare for the general election battle with McCain.

"Obama has been very resilient, bouncing back from rough periods and doing very well with independent voters," pollster John Zogby said. "The race with McCain is going to be very competitive."

The poll was taken Thursday through Sunday during a period when Obama came under attack from President George W. Bush and McCain for his promise to talk to hostile foreign leaders without preconditions.

Obama's gains followed a month in which he was plagued with a series of campaign controversies and suffered two big losses to Clinton in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

The poll was conducted after Obama denounced his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who made a series of public appearances that rekindled a controversy over his inflammatory comments on race and religion.

Obama also survived a furor over his comments about "bitter" small-town residents who cling to guns and religion out of frustration over their economic concerns.

Obama edged closer to clinching the Democratic nomination on Tuesday when he split two nominating contests with Clinton, beating the New York senator in Oregon and losing in Kentucky to gain a majority of pledged delegates won in state-by-state nominating contests.

The results put him within easy range of the 2,026 delegates needed for the nomination. Just three Democratic nominating contests remain before voting concludes on June 3.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #489277
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Has anyone done a poll breaking down the states and showing what the electoral vote would look like as of now? These national polls don't mean much.


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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Has anyone done a poll breaking down the states and showing what the electoral vote would look like as of now? These national polls don't mean much.


Try this:

http://electoralprojection.blogspot.com/2008/05/2008-presidential-electoral-vote_17.html


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: olivant] #489399
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Great site Olivant. It shows McCain one electoral vote short of winning. With Michgan still in play, now I see why he is flirting with Mitt Romney. It also probably strengthens the chances that Obama will pick Strickland the Ohio Governor.


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Officials: Obama begins veep search

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON - Likely Democratic nominee Barack Obama has begun a top-secret search for a running mate, fresh signs that the general election campaign is well under way and the primary race against Hillary Rodham Clinton is basically over.

Obama has asked former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson to begin vetting potential vice presidential picks, Democratic officials said Thursday. Johnson did the same job for Democratic nominees John Kerry in 2004 and Walter Mondale in 1984.

The Democratic officials spoke on a condition of anonymity about a process that the campaign wants to keep quiet.

Vice presidential searches are usually closely held secrets, but Obama campaign officials say the effort is being handled by a particularly tight circle of advisers.

The campaign did not want to discuss the effort because they are still engaged in a fading primary campaign against Hillary Rodham Clinton, with three primaries left in Puerto Rico, South Dakota and Montana. The voting ends June 3. Obama has repeatedly declined to discuss possible running mates while the primary is ongoing.

"We're not commenting about this process," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.

But they are taking behind-the-scenes steps to move toward the general election campaign, with just 61 delegates needed to clinch the nomination according to the latest Associated Press count. Obama has 1,965 delegates to Clinton's 1,780, with 2,026 required to secure the party's nod under Democratic National Committee rules.

The Obama campaign is rapidly adding to its campaign staff, both at the headquarters and in general election swing states. Obama has been traveling to some of those battlegrounds — Missouri, Michigan, Iowa and Florida in the last nine days — while the campaign is registering voters across the country for the November vote. And top Obama organizer Paul Tewes is in discussions to take over the Democratic National Committee.

It's all part of an effort to lay the groundwork for an aggressive kickoff to a general election campaign. Republican John McCain has a head start and has been building his effort for several months since the GOP primary race wrapped up in early March.

McCain is hosting at least three Republicans mentioned as potential vice presidential running mates at his Sedona, Ariz., home this weekend — Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. A top aide said it's a social event with more than two dozen guests not meant for veep vetting.

Obama's campaign refused to talk about who was being considered, but possible options are Clinton; governors such as Arizona's Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Tim Kaine of Virginia; foreign policy experts like former Georgia Sen. Sam Nunn, Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd or Delaware Sen. Joe Biden; or other senators such as Missouri's Claire McCaskill and Virginia's Jim Webb.

He could look outside the party to people such as war critic and Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel or independent New York mayor Mike Bloomberg. Or he could look to one of his early prominent supporters such as former Sen. Tom Daschle of South Dakota or try to bring on a Clinton supporter like Indiana's Evan Bayh.

Johnson's role running the veep process was first reported on TheAtlantic.com.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #489426
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Obama has asked former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson to begin vetting potential vice presidential picks, Democratic officials said Thursday. Johnson did the same job for Democratic nominees John Kerry in 2004 and Walter Mondale in 1984.


Its a good thing Johnson won't be the vp candidate... the last two presidents who had a vp named Johnson were both shot.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Obama has asked former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson to begin vetting potential vice presidential picks, Democratic officials said Thursday. Johnson did the same job for Democratic nominees John Kerry in 2004 and Walter Mondale in 1984.


Its a good thing Johnson won't be the vp candidate... the last two presidents who had a vp named Johnson were both shot.


But hasn't every president so far had a Johnson? whistle

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Originally Posted By: SC
Its a good thing Johnson won't be the vp candidate... the last two presidents who had a vp named Johnson were both shot.

But hasn't every president so far had a Johnson?


Clinton sure had one and that was his vice, but it wasn't his vice-president. wink


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