Ok. That's fine. But I sincerely suggest that you don't go there.

Would it have made more sense to you Don Cardi if Capo had worded that sentence differently? "I love Curb Your Enthusiasm therefore I can't wait to watch Seinfeld."

Larry David was involved with both so the post was relevant to this topic. I don't see the need to get huffy...

That same black family was on the show in a later episode when George realized (I can't remember why) that he had no black friends so he was desperately trying to find one, including going back to that families house and asking to hang out with them.

You are referring to when George made an innocent comment to a black co-worker, saying that he looked a lot like boxer Sugar Ray Leonard. To which the co-worker responded, "I bet we all look alike to you, Constanza." From there, George gets overly sensitive and then just basically is walking up to blacks on the street trying to make a friend.

Jerry had a great retort to George's dilemma. "You don't have any black friends. Outside of us, you don't have any white friends either."

The Breakfast At Tiffany's book club scene was hilarious because George made a reference to the movie what was completely different than the book.

The use of the same black family in the later episode one of many times the same characters would randomly appear in different episodes. Another one like that is the woman who goes braless, and who Seinfeld refers to as Elaine's Lex Luthor.
My favorite is the Johnny Cocharan like character who ends up getting a restraining order against Kramer.

Larry David grew up in my co-op. He is four years older than me so I didn't know him well, but from what I remember of him as kid - he was just average (like most of us).

My favorite Jackie Chiles moment was when he was in court with Kramer in the episode to which you are referring. Kramer insisted on the woman trying on the bra and it did not fit, in a perfect slap at the OJ trial. Jackie Chiles berates Kramer: "A bra's gotta fit up against a person's skin...like a glove!"

They also did a great OJ spoof of the slow-speed chase when Kramer was driving a guy accused of murdering a dry cleaner.

Speaking of bra's there is the episode where Kramer and Frank Costanza invent the bra for a man... They couldn't decide whether to call it the "manzier" or the "bro".

I'm with those who believe this is the greatest show of all time.

There is an alternate ending on the dvd to the Mayoral Election 1993 episode, where Dinkins defeats Giuliani. The actor who played Jackie (Phil Morris), plays a campaign advisor in it. He is the son of the late Greg morris from MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.

Wow, I did not know about the alternate ending PB. I guess they filmed for whatever the real election results were at the time.

It may be on the dvds, I'm not sure because I do not own them. But does anyone here remember the "Handicapped Spot" episode that originally aired where Jerry Stiller did NOT play George's father? In the original episode, the father was played by the actor who was Chevy Chase's father in "Christmas Vacation." All subsequent repeats had Jerry Stiller. Kind of like Mickey & Kramer as the "stand-ins" on All My Children.

I like Phil Morris's Johnny Cochran character in the series finale. He tells Jerry on the phone there's no law against helping people, you don't have to help anyone if you don't feel like it. That cracks me up.

Yes, Goombah, that's also on the dvd extras.

You really have to get them because, like me, you're obviously such a big fan.

I rec'd the 1st two seasons as a gift, Pizzaboy, but I never seriously considered the purchase for the mere fact that I've seen each one about 20 times on reruns. But there are obviously omitted scenes on the reruns that the dvd includes, plus some other bonuses. One omission that comes to mind is the the one where Jerry gets the haircut from Enzo. At the end, Jerry shaves Newman bald, but they never show that in the reruns. I just remember laughing so hard when it was in first-run.

My two favorite Newman moments were:

1. When Newman was driving the mailtruck and Kramer spilled the paint thinner on the road. Something creates a spark underneath Newman's truck while he is singing "Three Times a Lady." As he starts to burn, he screams "oh the humanity..."

2. When Newman is confronted in a lie by Jerry about Newman's supposed love of broccoli. When forced to bite the vegetable, Newman spits it out and cries "vile weed."

Two classics, Goombah. And no matter how many times I hear it, I always laugh at the way Jerry says "Hello Newman," as well as how ballistic Newman goes whenever someone denigrates the mail system.

Newman is the second funniest mailman on tv, behind Cliff Klaven.

By the way, my favorite secondary character of the series has to be Peterman.

"Come, George. We dine."

I agree!

Cliff was one of the all-time supporting cast members. He and Norm are two of my favorite tv characters ever.

Norm runs into the bar.

Cliff: "What's shakin' Nohm-ee?"

Norm: "All four cheeks and a couple of chins."

There are so many good secondary characters on this show: Puddy, Morty, Frank, Newman, and Uncle Leo, to name but a few.

I saw the one last night where George was using Jerry's sex "move" on a girlfriend. He wrote the procedures on his hand and was caught afterward by the girlfriend. One of George's best retorts (IMO): "It's not the SATs!"

Frank Costanza: "Uuunh, I stopped short. That's my MOVE!"

One of the great secondary characters is Elaine's co-worker at Peterman who is a germophobe who wont go near her because she thinks Elaine sleeps with too many men.

Another classic Peterman episode (and yet another of several references to FFC in the series) is the scene in Burma where Elaine tracks down a deranged Peterman who mimics the lines of Brando in Apocolypse Now... "are you an assassin? you are an errand girl, sent by grocery clerks to deliver a bill" and, when he sees what she has done to his catalog and he exclaims "The horror.....the horror"

A secondary character I really liked was George's boss Kruger. I love how he cared less about his job than George did. "Oh, damn. I've locked myself out of my office again. Oh well. I'm going home."

Kruger was great... always saying they were going broke and that he didn't care. My favorite Kruger episode was the one where George wanted to get the nickname "T-Bone," but instad they started calling him "koko" after the monkey.

yeah, and then in another episode he went to George's house for Festivus.

Right... I forgot about that... Festivus for the Rest of us. I love the whole ritual....the airing of family grievances, the strength contest, the aluminum pole, and most especially George's reaction to it.

I got a lot of problems with you people!

Some of my favorite lines from Frank are from the "Festivus" episode:

"As I reined blows down upon him, I knew there had to be a better way. From that incident, a new holiday was born: a Festivus for the rest of us."

"My son tells me your company stinks. You couldn't smooth a silk sheet if you had a hot date with a babe...I lost my train of thought."

"I find tinsel distracting."





One of my favorite Newman moments were when he & Kramer decided to sell used records. They went into the store and the guy only wanted to give them $5 for their records, which was far lower than what they expected. Newman kept repeating Kramer's disparaging remarkes back to the record store owner in response to the low-ball offer:

"You emit a foul & unpleasant odor."
"You are a piece of crap."
"I find you extremely ugly."

Funniest one time guest?

Bookman---the library "cop."

"Pee pees and wee wees"

"Well, let me tell you something funny boy."

That guy took a Jack Webb parody to another dimension!

Yep, Bookman was awesome. I also thought the guy who played the mohel was hilarious, the woman who screamed at Jerry during the babyshower Elaine held in Jerry's apartment, Sid Fields, Judge Reinhold's close-talker, Ramon the pool guy, and Rebecca de Morney from Brentanno's ("You get that toilet book outta here and I won't jump over the counter and punch you in the brain.") were all outstanding as well.

An episode I don't see frequently is the Pig-Man.