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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: Don Cardi]
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02/12/08 09:43 AM
02/12/08 09:43 AM
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J Geoff
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Goth? See, Staten Island isn't really part of New York....
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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02/12/08 09:43 AM
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Don Cardi
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As Pat Cooper said : "All dressed in black with A gold tooth here, a knitting needle there......." My grandfather ( mother's father ) died when I was 4 years old. My grandmother ( mother's mother ) died when I was 17 years old. She wore black everyday for 13 years! Madone! Talk about being old fashioned and from "the other side!"
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: Don Cardi]
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02/12/08 09:47 AM
02/12/08 09:47 AM
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J Geoff
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...but I bet (at least) they knew how to pronounce manicotti!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: Don Cardi]
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02/12/08 11:42 AM
02/12/08 11:42 AM
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dontomasso
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There you go -- a "New York Italian" thing... not an Italian thing. Same as the NY/NJ mispronunciation of most Italian pasta names/dishes mani- got ...Huh? How do you pronounce it?? It's not pronounced like Mrs. Manicotti in the Honeymooners! It's pronounced : mOn - e - gOth In Italy, except for the O, the other vowels are sounded out differently than in America. The O is still sounded out as a long O just like in the english language. The E is sounded out as a a short E ( like in the word wEt) So in Italy you would say, (just like here in east Geoff ) m O-N e-g Oth Not to be too picky, but that pronounciation is a SOuthern Italian dialect, probably Sicilian. In Florence, where they claim they speak the only "real" Italian, you would call it Mahn eeeee cott eeee.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: pizzaboy]
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02/12/08 03:14 PM
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If you're older than 21 and your mother still makes you pastina with butter when you're sick, you might be Italian.
You might also be pushing the envelope on living at home too long.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: dontomasso]
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02/12/08 03:44 PM
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If you're older than 21 and your mother still makes you pastina with butter when you're sick, you might be Italian.
You might also be pushing the envelope on living at home too long. Where I grew up it was common and a subject of good natured kidding in the Italian families, of which there were many, that the sons were pampered while the girls did much of the work. That was the case in my wife's family where as a teenager and young adult, she, her sister and parents worked very hard in the family enterprise while her brother stayed home and watched TV. He's closing in on 40 now and pretty much runs the business. He has a girlfriend, but still lives in his mother's basement where he continues to be pampered. My mother-in-law takes out the garbage, and when I asked why her son didn't do it, she answered that she never told him what day the trash collection was. I don't know if this trait is familiar. I'm sure it exists in other groups too.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: klydon1]
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02/12/08 04:03 PM
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[quote=klydon1
My mother-in-law takes out the garbage, and when I asked why her son didn't do it, she answered that she never told him what day the trash collection was.
I don't know if this trait is familiar. I'm sure it exists in other groups too. [/quote]
This is pretty much widespread throughout the Mediterranean. Men do no cooking, cleaning, etc., and the women do all the "menial work." My own mohter who is half Spanish is apalled that I will make my own coffee, empty the garbage, pitch in with the dishes, etc. because she thinks men should not do women's work. It is slowly changing everywhere (except perhaps among the Arabs).
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: dontomasso]
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02/12/08 04:06 PM
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If you're older than 21 and your mother still makes you pastina with butter when you're sick, you might be Italian.
You might also be pushing the envelope on living at home too long. Oh, yeah, cuz that's soooo uncommon with Italian-American men.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: pizzaboy]
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02/12/08 05:03 PM
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If you're older than 21 and your mother still makes you pastina with butter when you're sick, you might be Italian.
You might also be pushing the envelope on living at home too long. Oh, yeah, cuz that's soooo uncommon with Italian-American men. A good movie to watch is Marty with a young Ernest Borgnine. The movie is from the 50s, and the scenes with his mother and brother-in-law are very good. I really enjoyed this movie.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: Sicilian1]
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02/14/08 11:55 PM
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Posts: 25,984 California
The Italian Stallionette
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Sicilian 1, Things have changed. I too grew up in the true "Italian" (well, Sicilian)atmosphere, with foods, customs, traditions. All my grandparents and my father were born in Sicily (Trapani). I have such wonderful memories of the family sitting at the table, eating good food; my grandmother who only spoke Italian (but she did try to throw English in the mix) talking to me and me trying my hand at Italian (not doing so well), but hey, we connected. I remember so well grandma bringing out her piles of Christmas gifts, how her food tasted just a tad better than the rest and simply how culture was a big part of or lives. My children will not know what I have experienced. I guess that's a part of life going on, but I sure wish I would have appreciated some of these things more as they were happening. I guess that's part of life too, living, learning and cherishing memories. TIS
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