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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Mignon] #472100
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I saw somewhere that her staff is terrified to tell her if she doesn't do well in Texas and Ohio she is going to lose. She is really pissed off that this young upstart has the nerve to interrupt her coronation.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #472132
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 Originally Posted By: dontomasso
I saw somewhere that her staff is terrified to tell her if she doesn't do well in Texas and Ohio she is going to lose. She is really pissed off that this young upstart has the nerve to interrupt her coronation.


I don't think anyone has to tell her. She knows.

I haven't seen any polls recently for March 4 (not that they've been entirely accurate), but a few weeks ago Hillary had leads in those states and PA, but I'm sure it's tightened.

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Well I know of 2 votes she won't get in Ohio.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Mignon] #472165
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 Originally Posted By: Mignon
Well I know of 2 votes she won't get in Ohio.


Pennsylvania doesn't come around until April, but as usual, my wife and I will probably be cancelling each other out in the Democratic primary.

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: klydon1] #472184
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Her instistence that things will turn in Ohio and Texas is starting to sound eerily familiar to Rudy saying, Let's see what happens in Florida.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #472188
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Her instistence that things will turn in Ohio and Texas is starting to sound eerily familiar to Rudy saying, Let's see what happens in Florida.


Are either of these "winner take all" states? If not I think she is in deep trouble.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #472253
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I just came back from voting. They were worried that the foul weather would be keeping the voters away. Heck, Maryland has lousy election turn outs if it's sunny and 80 degrees.

But it was sad that there were only 2 pollsters working where I was at. And they were campaigning for the same person. Where are all the people shoving a leaflet in my face. I was very let down.

I remember when I turned 18 and could start to vote, I was so excited. I remember when I was younger my mom and sisters would go to vote. You'd see some friends and neighbors at the polling place, and you'd talk while you all waited in line. They would serve coffee and snacks while you waited. I felt so great when I was part of the grown up crowd and could hang with them doing our civic duty. Now you go in there's no line, and about 3 judges, and at least one is always free. It took me all of 6 minutes from coming in to leaving.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Beth E] #472256
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God help us Hillary is coming to the Ohio Valley sometime this week.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Mignon] #472281
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They've extended the polling closing time from 8:00 to 9:30 in Maryland due to the bad weather.

I never really understood this. The weather is not gonna get better in 1 1/2 hour. The last thing I want to do in freezing rain is driving somewhere at 9:30 at night.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Beth E] #472304
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 Originally Posted By: Beth E

I remember when I turned 18 and could start to vote, I was so excited.


When I was 18, I voted for the first time, but it wasn't a presidential election year. My first vote was cast for Alan Ertel for governor. He lost. 20 years later he was the attorney on the opposite side of a case we had. He lost again. \:\)

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: klydon1] #472307
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I think if he spots you again he's gonna walk on the other side of the street. You're worse than a bad penny.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Beth E] #472313
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 Originally Posted By: Beth E
I think if he spots you again he's gonna walk on the other side of the street. You're worse than a bad penny.


I should add he didn't have a shot either time. In the election Dick Thornburgh was very popular, and in the case he didn't have good facts to win. I would like to say that it was great lawyering that won the day, but it wasn't. He was by far the better advocate. I just happened to have the facts and the law on my side.

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: klydon1] #472367
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Obama won the Potamic Primaries in a smackdown fashion. Indeed, this is getting closer to happening...


Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #472368
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Talk about an exciting race. Obama won big in today's primaries too. I can only imagine Hillary is saying to herself, "where the hell did he come from?" Just a few months ago we were all wondering who our choices would be.

EDIT: I heard tonight that "if" the contenders end up being Obama and McCain, that it will be the largest age difference between two Presidential candidates ever. McCain is 72 and Obama 42 (or 44?). Anyway, we're talking two different generations.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #472375
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 Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Talk about an exciting race. Obama won big in today's primaries too. I can only imagine Hillary is saying to herself, "where the hell did he come from?" Just a few months ago we were all wondering who our choices would be.

EDIT: I heard tonight that "if" the contenders end up being Obama and McCain, that it will be the largest age difference between two Presidential candidates ever. McCain is 72 and Obama 42 (or 44?). Anyway, we're talking two different generations.


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Obama is 46, but yes you might be correct about that wide age-gap.....

and thats something McCain will have to struggle against, for you can already hear the jokes:

"McCain is so old, he pisses dust."

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #472477
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David Wilhelm----Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign chief, just announced he's backing Obama. She's also lost some support in the Latino community, here in New York, for parting ways with her top Hispanic advisor.

The wheels are coming off this thing!


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #472483
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She is keeping up a good front, but Hillary has to know that is BAD. Obama now leads in delegates, although not by much. And I don't think that Texas is going her way. My nephew lives down there, and he says that she is DESPISED.

As I said earlier, 6 or 8 months ago, who would have imagined that Giuliani would be out and Hillary would be 2nd??


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #472486
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And last night, she lost out among her "bread and butter."

He took 60% of the female vote.

He took 52% of the elderly vote.

He took 51% of the white vote.

He took 59% of the voters making less than $50,000 a year.

Oh, he also took 53% of the Latino vote, which she was really counting on.

The black vote, well, just 81%.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #472495
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Texas is Bush country, so no surprise that they despise her there.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Beth E] #472518
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Last I saw, she was still holding a lead in Texas and Ohio.

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: klydon1] #472544
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She is coming to Youngstown, Ohio tomorrow. I live about 15-20 minutes from Youngstown. But do you think I'm going out in this cold to see that douchebag? HELL NO!!!!


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Mignon] #472639
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Right here, but I'd rather be ...
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I have a strong feeling Obama will be our next president.

It'll be a glorious day.


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I wish I knew enough about what he believes in to make a statement like that. All I know is that he's for "Change". Quite frankly, after this last administration, that just might be enough of a reason.


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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
I wish I knew enough about what he believes in to make a statement like that. All I know is that he's for "Change". Quite frankly, after this last administration, that just might be enough of a reason.


If Clinton was the underlying topic of the 2000 election, Bush will be the underlying topic of the 2008 election.

And he's scoring 30% approval as we speak.

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #472728
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Watch for the eventual Democratic nominee (I am hoping for Obama) to talk about the "failed Bush-McCain" policies at every opportunity.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #472754
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 Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
I wish I knew enough about what he believes in to make a statement like that. All I know is that he's for "Change". Quite frankly, after this last administration, that just might be enough of a reason.


And he's scoring 30% approval as we speak.


I can't stand the guy, I'd like to give him a dry enema with jagged pieces of glass, so don't get me wrong, but do you remember right after 9/11, he had the highest approval rating ever?

He really should be an inspiration to us all. That a man as stupid as he is could attain the highest office in the free world, it gives us all a chance to achieve our goals.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #472764
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PB please tell us whatyou REALLY think! At least that smirk has been wiped off his face.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

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 Originally Posted By: dontomasso
PB please tell us whatyou REALLY think! At least that smirk has been wiped off his face.


I do have a habit of sugarcoating things.

Those darned Jesuits at Fordham turned me into a softy.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #472832
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
 Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
I wish I knew enough about what he believes in to make a statement like that. All I know is that he's for "Change". Quite frankly, after this last administration, that just might be enough of a reason.


And he's scoring 30% approval as we speak.


I can't stand the guy, I'd like to give him a dry enema with jagged pieces of glass, so don't get me wrong, but do you remember right after 9/11, he had the highest approval rating ever?

He really should be an inspiration to us all. That a man as stupid as he is could attain the highest office in the free world, it gives us all a chance to achieve our goals.


That post made my day.

:Bravo!:

Anyway, while the media says Hillary's campaign is as dead as fried chicken, I still believe that she's Hitler 1945, where if she doesn't win, she would take her party down kicking, screaming, and burning.

If Obama indeed finishes with more delegates, but Hillary's superdelegates gets her the nomination.....there will be hell to pay.

And McCain would brush the sweat off his forehead.

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #472881
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If Hillary is the nominee, which I don't think she will be, I would vote for her. She is not the greatest person the Dems could run out there, but if she does not get the nomination, she will not hurt the party. If nothing else, Bill Clinton will not let her.

I think she is as surprised as anybody about what Barak Obama has done so far. This was her chance and it does not look like it will happen. Here in Ohio, she is trailing Obama in the most recent poll for the March 4 primary.

John McCain has much reason to sweat. He's 70 years old, is the clear cut nominee, and still has to overcome a fair amount of hatred from his own party. Should he somehow overcome the doubting independents and conservatives, he still has to face the tidal wave of support Obama has been garnering.

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