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Re: Death
[Re: dontomasso]
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01/23/08 01:46 PM
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Funny you should mention that. I was reading a true crime book last night, and the murderer was being executed. Although nobody really wants to die, he was afforded the luxury of knowing the precise time of his death. There would be something oddly comforting in that, in being able to make your peace, to say goodbye. Although he couldn't travel or have parties, he was still able to face his mortality head-on.
When my father was dying, his parish priest came to visit and talk to him. My dad said, "Father, I die a very rich man." This sort of piqued the priest's interest (possible donation to the church??) and he asked what my father meant. And Pop told him that he had lived a good life with a woman he adored, with three children who had happy marriages, and lots of good, true friends. He said that there was nothing else on earth that he would have wanted. I think that's a wonderful way to look at your life.
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Re: Death
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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01/23/08 06:26 PM
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She said that she feels like there's nobody from her past still left. I think that's one of the main reasons why I don't want to live that long. Grant it, you'll have your kids, and possibly grandkids. But to be the only one around who remembers things from your era, it could get quite lonely. I hardly dream of what death's like, but I have quirky dreams, (or nightmares) about my funeral. Who'll show up, what'll be said, etc. I'd like to be a fly on the wall and haunt whoever says anything bad about me.
How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin
When there's a will...put me in it.
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Re: Death
[Re: Mignon]
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01/23/08 06:35 PM
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I'd like to be a fly on the wall and haunt whoever says anything bad about me. I want to haunt the people who I hate and make their lives miserable. I said earlier, if I knew I was gonna die I'd confront people I hate, or punch them in the face. Then I'd be a ghost in their house and make chairs move and pictures fall of the wall to make them miserable forever.
How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin
When there's a will...put me in it.
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Re: Death
[Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra]
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01/24/08 02:35 PM
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Death is inevitable. The sooner you accept that, the better off you are. That's why I think people should just do what makes them happy, and ignore the consequences every once in a while. I don't mean you should go off and do something totally crazy that means imminent death, but if you get your kicks by smoking cigarettes and drinking a few glasses of wine, then by all means, smoke your cigarettes and drink your wine. That's your prerogative.
I could die tomorrow, and I'm pretty sure I'd be fine with it. Granted I wouldn't want to die an excessively painful death, we just can't control it. Humans are really just here to keep society moving (which is sort of a useless cause to begin with, but I won't get into it now), and it intrigues me the psychological conditioning that very society has had on us. Now people have become obsessed with emotions and happiness, which is great in some ways, but blinds us in other ways. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for humanization, I'm proud to be an intellectual life form. If that were taken away from me now, I'd probably just want to die, but if I had never had it to begin with, I'd probably be unable to tell the difference.
In short, we're all going to die sooner or later. Why should we fear it? If you're of an alternative viewpoint to religion, then after life comes nothingness, and what's so bad about that? It'd be impossible to comprehend, because it's total nothingness... You wouldn't feel any good, but at the same time, you wouldn't feel any bad. And if you do believe in God, then great, even better, you have Heaven, or whatever your religion believes comes next, and that sounds pretty damn good.
We're all going to die sooner or later, so why should it matter when that time comes? Do what makes you happy now.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Death
[Re: long_lost_corleone]
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01/24/08 02:41 PM
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We're all going to die sooner or later, so why should it matter when that time comes? Do what makes you happy now. Its not always that simple. I understand your rationale but sometimes there are circumstances that prevent that. Parents, for example, have responsibilities to their kids that may preclude them from thinking about their own happiness first.
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Re: Death
[Re: SC]
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01/24/08 02:45 PM
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Its not always that simple. I know... But I am a cynic, as you're aware. In my current position as a 17 year old average high school student, I'm in the role of having few attachments to life. But all the more, I don't think death is something to fear. I can't get my head around fearing death. Everyone dies, and there's no way to change that. It's like fearing your own asshole.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Death
[Re: long_lost_corleone]
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01/24/08 02:49 PM
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Everyone dies, and there's no way to change that. It's like fearing your own asshole. I used to fear my asshole. Its all behind me now. You bring up a good point.... why fear something thats going to happen anyway? In fact, its the ONLY thing we can be certain of in life.
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Re: Death
[Re: SC]
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01/24/08 03:01 PM
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I think, on a forum about big-time criminals, we can agree that not all pay taxes, but most definitely die.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Death
[Re: DE NIRO]
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01/25/08 11:59 AM
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There's actually a really interesting theory on death that I want to say was founded at the University of New Mexico(I'd have to check my sources) that has to do with dimethyltryptamine (or, DMT). Basically, DMT is a naturally occurring tryptamine and neurotransmitter. Just about every living thing produces it, and at the same time, it is the most powerful hallucinogenic substance known to man. It's more illegal than heroin, yet we can extract it from grass, tree-frogs, and even the human brain. DMT is only released during two processes... sleep, and death. When you dream, you're actually experiencing a similar experience to the psychedelic/hallucinogenic effects of DMT.
So, the theory hypothesizes that when you die, your brain releases every last drop of DMT. Now, it takes a very, very miniscule ammount to create dreams or to achieve a psychedelic experience in recreational use. We're talking micrograms. Imagine a dose millions of times larger. It's commonly theorized that you have approximately 12 seconds of brain activity after death, and it is also a well known fact among the drug culture that any psychedelic substance is going to alter your perception of time.
Here's where it gets interesting: basically, what this hypothesis states is that those 12 seconds of brain activity, due to the unbelievable strength of the large amounts of DMT being released, seem like an eternity. So, in summary, imagine a psychedelic trip that lasts an eternity, and you've got it. And if that's so, why fear death at all? Why fear it if, in retrospect, it is a euphoric experience. I'm not saying this is what happens when you die... I don't think anyone can rightfully say they know what comes after life, but this is certainly an interesting theory.
Some scientists use this possibility to explain the "near death experience"... You know... Seeing the light and all that.
But my question is, what if you die in your sleep? Are you stuck in that dream for that 12 second eternity? What if you die in the middle of a nightmare? Is that hell?
Again, I'm not saying this is what happens when you die, and I have a feeling I'll get some skeptical responses from some of the more religious posters here if I don't say so, but it certainly is interesting.
I actually wrote a short story based around the theory.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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