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Re: WWE Raw [Re: Don Cardi] #447997
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I'm very familiar with the Von Erich's, DC. They are, as you said, among the best wrestlers who ever lived. Hell, travel to ANY part of Texas, and you'll find just as many people who worship the Von Erich family as there are people who worship God. To some, there's no difference.

But what may even be a bigger legend than the Von Erich family is the legendary "Von Erich curse." Four of the five eldest sons in the Von Erich family all died within a 10 year period of each other. Michael, Kerry, and Chris all committed suicide, while David's death is still disputed to this day. Kevin is the sole survivor of the Adkisson clan (their birth names were actually Adkisson, not Von Erich.)

Another famous wrestling family that seems to be cursed is the Hart family. Whereas the Von Erich's are arguably the most famous wrestling family in the US, the Hart family is the most famous in Canada, and quite possibly the entire world. While only 2 of the original Hart kids have died (Owen and Dean), a large number of their extended family (as well as a number of the Harts' closest friends) have died.

Dean Hart was diagnosed with Bright's disease during the 80s and eventually succumbed to kidney failure.

Owen Hart was killed in a tragic accident that saw him entering the ring from a zip line about 80 feet up in the air. The device malfunctioned, and he fell to his death.

"British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (husband of Diana Hart) died of an apparent heart attack. The autopsy showed it was caused from years of steroid abuse.

Brian Pillman died of heart disease, which had gone un-diagnosed.

"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (close friend of the Harts) died of acute cocaine intoxication.


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I think its horrible that DH Smith was caught using steroids after his father was killed because of them.


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Re: WWE Raw [Re: DonMichaelCorleone] #448004
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 Originally Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
I think its horrible that DH Smith was caught using steroids after his father was killed because of them.


It IS horrible, but you hear stories like this all the time in pro-wrestling. Hell, just a couple months ago when all those wrestlers got suspended for steroid use, wanna know who was among them? Chavo Guerrero. And why did his good ol' Uncle Eddie die? Past steroid abuse was a big contributing factor.

But you gotta figure, steroids are openly available in EVERY sport. It's gotta be hard to fight that temptation. An athlete says "I only need to gain maybe 10, 15 lbs. Then I'll stop taking them." When they see how quick and easy it is to put on muscle by juicing, rather than putting in the hard work, they say "Why the hell not?" But like all users and addicts, whether it's drugs or something like gambling, they've got that "one more time" mentality.

It killed Eddie Guerrero. It killed Davey Boy Smith. And it killed countless others, and it'll kill many more.


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Re: WWE Raw [Re: XDCX] #449832
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Chris Jericho will be returning to the WWE next Monday on Raw

Re: WWE Raw [Re: Irishman12] #449850
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Kahli vs. Hornswoggle at Survivor Series wtf. Who do you guys want to win between HBK and Orton?


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Re: WWE Raw [Re: Mignon] #449856
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I think Orton will retain. As much as I'd love to see HBK walk away with the title, I just don't see it happening because Orton just got the belt.

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Do you think that he'll wind up doing Sweet Chin and get DQ'd ?


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Re: WWE Raw [Re: Mignon] #449953
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I don't know how it'll end but like I said, I don't see Orton losing. Michaels may do sweet chin and get DQ'd or Randy could hit the RKO. Vince could also interfere, costing Michaels the match, etc.

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-As upset as I am that Michaels didn't win the title tonight, I can't say I'm surprised. I'm glad though that the Undertake didn't win it against Batista

-Also, remember, Chris Jericho will be on Raw tomorrow

-Anyone watching TNA on Thursday? Booker T himself made his Impact debut

Re: WWE Raw [Re: Irishman12] #451444
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So how did Michaels lose?


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 Originally Posted By: bogey
So how did Michaels lose?


It was written in the script.


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Re: WWE Raw [Re: Irishman12] #451481
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 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
-As upset as I am that Michaels didn't win the title tonight, I can't say I'm surprised. I'm glad though that the Undertake didn't win it against Batista

-Also, remember, Chris Jericho will be on Raw tomorrow

-Anyone watching TNA on Thursday? Booker T himself made his Impact debut

Damn that Edge for helping out Batista I was really hoping Shawn would win.


Yea I seen TNA but I didn't see it till Saturday night. Yep King Booker is back to Booker T. I don't watch TNA that much. I wonder who else from WWE will go to TNA in the future.

Will Miz and Morrison go to Smackdown now since they have the tag team belts now?


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Re: WWE Raw [Re: bogey] #451513
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 Originally Posted By: bogey
So how did Michaels lose?


Here are the results

Re: WWE Raw [Re: Irishman12] #451624
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...and the WWE has become watchable for the first time in six years, for me at least.


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 Originally Posted By: Don Andrew
...and the WWE has become watchable for the first time in six years, for me at least.


Abso-Fucking-Lutely.

Damn, I not only miss Jericho the ring-worker....but his promos too.

He's a better heel than face, but fuck it...he's back. That's all I care about.

But whats with the gay outfit?

Re: WWE Raw [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #451628
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I was so glad that Y2J ruined Orton's passing of the torch. I would love to punch him in his face.

My son didn't want me to mute the tv when Jillian started to cackle. But I did anyways.

I am tired of seeing the same matches all the time. Umaga vs Jeff Hardy or Hardcore Holly vs Cody Rhodes.

Why is Y2J back?


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Re: WWE Raw [Re: Mignon] #451636
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 Originally Posted By: Mignon
I am tired of seeing the same matches all the time. Umaga vs Jeff Hardy or Hardcore Holly vs Cody Rhodes.


Or Batista vs. the Undertaker or Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels. That's one of my beef's with the writing, it's the same recycled crap week in and week out, month after month. However, the MVP and Matt Hardy ongoing storyline is the only worthwhile reason to consistantly watching Smackdown besides Rey Mysterio's in-ring work.

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I am tired of seeing the same matches all the time. Umaga vs Jeff Hardy or Hardcore Holly vs Cody Rhodes.


Or Batista vs. the Undertaker or Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels. That's one of my beef's with the writing, it's the same recycled crap week in and week out, month after month. However, the MVP and Matt Hardy ongoing storyline is the only worthwhile reason to consistantly watching Smackdown besides Rey Mysterio's in-ring work.


Pretty much, and that MVP/Hardy feud has ignited with the complete heel turn by MVP. I believe that when Hardy does win the US belt, the crowds will go bananas.

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How hurt was Matt Hardy on Smackdown last Friday?


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 Originally Posted By: Mignon
How hurt was Matt Hardy on Smackdown last Friday?


Some reports claim he's alright, that its simply part of the storyline.

But usually, such episodes are penned so that wrestlers could get legitimate time off to heal, and a kayfabe excuse to boot.

As I've told some people, a Finlay/MVP program for the US belt would sell.

Re: WWE Raw [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #452265
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Why the f*ck is Shelton Benjamin being demoted to ECW!? If anything, Elijah Burke should be promoted to Smackdown! and they could have moved Shelton there

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Looks great that Jeff Hardy is getting a serious, up the ass push to the Main Event on RAW, and that's great.

While Shelton Benjamin is stuck on ECW.

All is just. \:\)

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Do you think Thast they will give Jeff the Belt on Sunday?


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No, I really don't. Orton's gonna hang onto it until WrestleMania at least

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I really don't like this new story line with Edge and that skank Vicki and Chavo.


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Yeah, me either really but I'm happy Edge has the belt. Him and Rey are probably my favorite wrestlers on Smackdown

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 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
Yeah, me either really but I'm happy Edge has the belt. Him and Rey are probably my favorite wrestlers on Smackdown


Meanwhile, Shelton still doesn't matter on ECW.

No, I feel great about Jeff Hardy's recent success and arguably, he is main event finally after all these years.

But using traditional Wrestling Logic, the person who gets the win or morale victory on the last episode BEFORE a PPV always loses at the PPV.

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Congrats to Chavo Guerrero on being the new ECW champion! Ohhhhhhhhhh Chavo

Re: WWE Raw [Re: Irishman12] #466602
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My kids watch the wrestling all the time and i seem to watch it myself quite a bit these days.
My favoutite is the little,green chappy, Hornswaggle \:\)


I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
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 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
Congrats to Chavo Guerrero on being the new ECW champion! Ohhhhhhhhhh Chavo


It was a good match. At least Chavo aint on the gutter-low card of SD!....

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