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Re: 2 Questions??
[Re: DonMichaelCorleone]
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09/30/07 10:04 PM
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Capone and Luciano met at least twice--once in a gangland convention in Chicago that Capone hosted, also in another convention in Atlantic City that Luciano helped to organize. Luciano, clever fellow, appointed Capone "chairman" of the Commission when he formed it ca. 1931, but it is not recorded that Capone ever attended a Commission meeting. Probably just as well, since the title was honorific. Joe Bonanno, in his autobiography, notes that the Chicago Outfit seldom participated in Commission business because there was only one organization--theirs--in Chicago, and it wasn't in their interests to get embroiled in the perpetual srife among NYC's Five Families.
They never met in prison. Capone went to Atlanta after his tax evasion conviction, then to Alcatraz, then to Terminal Island. Luciano went to Dannemora Prison after his Mann Act conviction, then to Great Meadow, then he was deported.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: 2 Questions??
[Re: SC]
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09/30/07 11:16 PM
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Guys, put on your reading glasses....
Failing eyesight is just one of my ongoing problems, SC. Effing Social Security won't pay for magnifiers.... Popular legend has it that Luciano and Capone knew each other from their teen years when they were supposed to have been in the same street gang. Capone's biographer, John Kobler, states the two knew each other from elementary school and later being in the Five Points Gang (headed by Johnny Torrio). Similarly, some of Luciano's bios mention early contact between the two, as well. Much as I respect Kobler (Capone's best biographer, IMO), it's doubtful that Capone and Luciano met as teens. Capone grew up in the Brooklyn Navy Yard district, while Luciano was a son of the Lower East Side. Going from one borough in those days was a big deal, much less running with the same gang.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: 2 Questions??
[Re: Don Cardi]
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10/01/07 11:00 AM
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According to several different sources, Al Capone and Lucky Luciano were co-members of a gang known as the Five Pointers.
That perception may have been based in the fact that Johnny Torrio, Capone's mentor, had been a Five Pointer--the long-running Lower East Side gang. But Torrio later moved to the Brooklyn Navy Yard district, where he became a ward heeler and racketeer, and where the adolescent Capone met and worshipped him. BTW: Kobler explains the origin of the word, "racket." He writes that, periodically, ward heelers and gang leaders would enrich themselves by throwing a dinner in their own honor, and "inviting" (read: requiring) local politicians, merchants and their own cohorts to make substantial "contributions" to the dinner, to the "commemorative journal," etc. These were loud, raucous, sometimes violent affairs, with everyone getting drunk, throwing rolls at each other, etc. They made a loud racket, in other words. (The all-time great movie "Little Caesar" accurately shows a "racket" dinner when Caesar takes over the Club Palermo gang from Sam Vettore.) Gradually, "racket" came to describe any illicit or semi-illicit money-making scheme or business.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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