Pun intended?

Honestly though, if smoking makes you happy, why quit? You'll live longer? So what. Wouldn't you rather live a marginally shorter life filled with happiness than a marginally longer life trying to avoid something you enjoy doing?

I think most people try quitting because it's the socially accepted way to approach a smoking habit.

If you REALLY believe that, then WHEN you're PERMANTELNTLY BANNED FOR LIFE, apparently you won't have a problem with it?

Good to know.. thanks...

All I am going to say, DVC, is that you should be thankful I am not a moderator on these Boards.

You'd be history.

Signor V.

I'm still trying to figure out why he hasn't been banned for life yet.

He's been suspended...what...3 times now?

While I do feel with all the rules/laws regarding smoking, that the smoker is getting "squeezed/phased out", social acceptance is NOT a reason to quit (at least for me). I assume you are very young, and have not yet learned how precious life is. Don't worry, it's normal. If I knew then what I know now and/or would have paid attention to the then beginning warnings.....I would have never started smoking, pleasurable or not.

TIS

In the 40s/50's it was the cool thing to do,now they are telling us all to quit,yet they are making Billions of cash every year.

Im a smoker and i have no real intention of quitting,suppose i will when its too late, its like DVC said "why quit if you enjoy it."

The best thing to do would be to stop producing them,but then goverments will be without all the crazy money they make of them.

What has he said here thats so bad,apart from voicing an opinion about cigarettes

Perhaps it is more pleasurable in the short term, but as a life-long habit, it is a dangerous one. It's akin to do anything else that is bad for you - overeating, eating the wrong foods, drinking to excess on a habitual basis, drug use, and so on. Why do you quit? Because you could end up dead, and you could do harm to those you love. And that's a pretty damned good reason.

I don't want to preach to you, I really don't. I can't stand '"reformed" people myself, whether they're reformed from drinking, smoking, gambling or whatever. But until you lose a loved one to cancer, as many of us have, you should really keep such an opinion to yourself.

Sr Vitelli certainly doesn't need anyone to speak on his behalf, but I'll do it anyway. His indignation, quite understandable, comes from a rather cavalier attitude made worse by a joke here. I'll remind you that SV lost his wife to cancer not too long ago.

When a 12 year old makes a statement suggesting that your pleasure is more important than your health it only serves to show a complete misunderstanding of life.

I've smoked for the better part of 40 years and I'm much worse off for it. I wheeze when I walk, I have trouble climbing stairs, I have yellowed teeth and fingers from the nicotine, my blood is thicker than it should be, and I have a few other medical issues from the smoking. I wish I had never started smoking so many years.

I realize it may be difficult for some of you younger guys and gals to relate to this. When you're a teenager your own mortality seems beyond comprehension. Life has a way of catching up on ya, and you'll inevitably pay dearly for any poor behavior, whether it be drugs, cigarettes, booze or poor eating habits. On a strictly financial basis you'll end up saving a LOT of money, too, if you don't smoke.

I urge you to don't smoke if already don't and to give up the ugly habit (if you do smoke now) before its too late.

My congratulations to all those of you who have stopped or are in the process of stopping now.

Great post, SC.

Great job guys...

My town has done a non smoking ordinance and I'm glad. I was so tired of walking into a restaurant and getting bombarded by smoke coming across the invisible wall between smoking and nonsmoking sections.

There's a casino maybe 20 minutes away and they have a section of nonsmoking slots. There's maybe 20 machines, you have to walk through all the smoke to get there, and there's no dividers. What's the point?

I know my fiancee and I piss off smokers sometimes, but we're both very sensitive to smoke. I don't tell random people not to quit or anything, but if they are smoking in a nonsmoking section or something they'll know it.

I never get the smoker's arguments about obese people. Two completely different things, it's just deflecting the question and changing the subject to something else.

I have tried to get my mom to quit. She did for awhile, she did great, and then she started back again. I don't want her around my baby if she smells like smoke. I guess she'll pick one or the other.

Well said SC.

That's a personal attack.

You should be suspended for a month.

You just don't get it, do you?

Get what? Shouldn't the rules apply to everybody?

I got banned for calling Mike Lupica, sportswriter for the New York Daily News, an idiot. So I'm sure SC should get some sort of punishment for sarcastically and condescendingly referring to me as a 12 year and insulting my intelligence.

No, I recall you being banned for telling a member to f*** off.

SC wasn't referring to you, he was referring to youth in general, because when you're young, you do not think of things like disease. You take good health for granted.

SC is the MAN. SV is the MAN.

Oooops.... arguing a moderator's decision in public is a no-no.

Have a month vacation on me!!

Buh-bye!!

A shame DVC. A real shame. This was a topic that was started with the intent of showing and giving support to ANY member here that wanted to or was attempting to kick a bad habit. Then you posted in here. You made it, or attempted to make it into a debate of some kind. And in the process, intentional or not, you managed to personally offend another member here who lost someone very dear to him, someone whom he loved unconditionally, by spewing more of your ignorance. And the moderator here could have easily balled you out, banned you, or whatever, and rightfully so. But instead he takes the time to explain to you why that other member took such offense to your post, and in his own way trys to explain to the rest of us why sometimes things are said by young people. How sometimes us older people need to stop and try to understand where the younger generation is coming from and why they may feel the way that they do at times. And he actually gave us some food for thought on your behalf.

And what do you do? You come back on here and attack him. You PROVE that you are really not YET mature enough to see that he was only trying to prevent a situation from getting out of hand.

You have some track record on here. You're lucky that SC is such a fair and understanding person. Because if I were the one handing out the punishment, you'd be gone for fucking good.

He's gone now, DC. Don't work yourself up to wanting a ciggy.

BTW - How's your weight doing since you stopped?

30 days?

Well, it's better than nothing, but next time he comes before the bench, let Chief Justice Cardi sentence him. He'll learn him.

No work up at all my friend.

My weight? I actually gained 7 lbs. since I quit. So now I am trying to work on losing it.

A friend of mine needed to lose weight (about 50 lbs.). She was at the doctor and mentioned that she was thinking of quitting smoking. The doctor congratulated her and then added, "But don't gain more weight!" She said that she knew she was in bad shape when the doctor was more concerned about her weight than if she quit smoking or not.

She not only quit smoking, but she lost 55 pounds! She looks amazing, and says that she's never felt better.

Well, nobody asked (maybe you all are being polite I don't know). Anyway, I know I've gained a few pounds. Truth is, I don't have a scale so don't know a total. However, I feel fat. Just judging by comfort and how clothes fit, I'm guessing maybe 5/8 pounds. Nothing feels too tight yet, but I just feel fat!!! For me I guess, the good news is I wasn't fat before so it won't be like "added" weight. But still it is a weight gain.

FWIW, I read that most people who quit can expect to gain 5/8 pounds, although some may gain as much as twenty. :o. And usually that weight gain in within the first six months to a year. Also, I've read that smoking burns 120 calories a day. I know, don't ask me how they know this.
So, they suggest cutting something out per day (i.e. maybe a soda or bread??); and/or go for a brisk half hour walk. I've done much reading and research on this, mainly for my own satisfaction as to when I can say "I did it" and so as not to be shocked by any after affect.


TIS

Wish it wasn't "added" weight for me!

Right now I'm a fat bastard! Smoke free...but a fat bastard.

Well DC, I figure "if" we get this far and quit, what's a measley 8 pounds right???? If we can be determined to do one thing, why not use the determination to do another? I just don't want to get overwhelmed with too many things to do at this moment.

TIS

Hey Tissy, how's it going?

I quit smoking today. I cant breath anymore and its to much money.

ds

Good for you! Good luck.