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Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #431753
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excellent mate you will enjoy this book for me this is the best mob book i have ever read let me know what you think mate

If i come across the table and take your f*****g eyes out ,will you remember

Aniello Dellacroce
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Re: Mafia Books [Re: chopper] #431762
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Really,I normally only read aboout New York and Italian Mafia.Have you read the Five Families..

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #431771
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Not yet i have heard its good though, when i first statred reading about the mafia it was always about chicago and that how i got in to it i definetly know more about the outfit than any about any of the NY Crime Families

If i come across the table and take your f*****g eyes out ,will you remember

Aniello Dellacroce
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Re: Mafia Books [Re: chopper] #431776
09/06/07 07:40 AM 09/06/07 07:40 AM
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Im vice virsa..

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #431779
09/06/07 07:41 AM 09/06/07 07:41 AM
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im sure you will find it interesting Gus Russo definetly knows his stuff, have you read double cross by Chuck Giancana?

If i come across the table and take your f*****g eyes out ,will you remember

Aniello Dellacroce
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Re: Mafia Books [Re: chopper] #431851
09/06/07 08:57 AM 09/06/07 08:57 AM
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Nope sorry,i haven't

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #431960
09/06/07 05:25 PM 09/06/07 05:25 PM
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well once you have read the outfit if your interested your more than welcome to have it off me

If i come across the table and take your f*****g eyes out ,will you remember

Aniello Dellacroce
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TFI Lucky Star
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Happy Hardcore DJ Hixxy
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Re: Mafia Books [Re: chopper] #431979
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That will do cool,probley be a while has i have so many books to read at the moment..

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #431981
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no probs ive just finished reading ice man that was excellent turned my stomach a few times but a great read, jesus what a vicious bastard although ive got to give him credit he was extremelly smart well until he got caught

If i come across the table and take your f*****g eyes out ,will you remember

Aniello Dellacroce
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Re: Mafia Books [Re: chopper] #432021
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Thats next on my list for sure...

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #432026
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I was extremely disappointed in THE CASE AGAINST LUCKY LUCIANO by Ellen Poulson, for many of the same reasons that TB mentioned. Being that Selwyn Raab (FIVE FAMILIES) gave it a ringing endorsement, I thought it would have been that much better.

"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Mafia Books [Re: pizzaboy] #432153
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i have just finished reading a book called MAFIA the complete history of a criminal underworld,to be honest when i first bought it i didnt expect anything special from the book but after reading it i recommend it to anybody interested in the sicillian mafia this book provides an in depth look at the sicillian mafia with also references to the american mafia when involved with there sicillian counterparts.excellent book

If i come across the table and take your f*****g eyes out ,will you remember

Aniello Dellacroce
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Happy Hardcore DJ Hixxy
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Re: Mafia Books [Re: chopper] #432539
09/08/07 05:37 AM 09/08/07 05:37 AM
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Just brought this today.



Hope its good

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #432561
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Excellent book DeNiro!

It's one of the best mob related books I've read all year. TB shares my opinion, as well. I think you'll love it!

"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Mafia Books [Re: pizzaboy] #432607
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Cool,ill let you know my views when i finish

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: pizzaboy] #432617
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Excellent book DeNiro!

It's one of the best mob related books I've read all year. TB shares my opinion, as well. I think you'll love it!


Yes, indeed--excellent book!

Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turnbull] #432632
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Thanks Guys..

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #434019
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I was wondering if there was books avaliable on each of the five familes in New York.(not including Five familes Book).

I have books on the Gambino and Bonnono Family.

Is there seperate books for- Genovese/Colombo/Luccashe.

Any help you be great.. \:\)

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #435313
09/15/07 07:28 AM 09/15/07 07:28 AM
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Just brought this .


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #435932
09/17/07 07:03 AM 09/17/07 07:03 AM
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Just brought this also.Looking forward to this one.


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #435936
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The two books pictured above are pretty good.

Check out another thread (that I think Turi started some time ago) here recommending Mob books (I'm too lazy to dig up a link now).

EDIT: Never mind... THIS is the thread.

Last edited by SC; 09/17/07 07:41 AM. Reason: Stupidity
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Re: Mafia Books [Re: SC] #435942
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 Originally Posted By: SC



EDIT: Never mind... THIS is the thread.



edit reason : senility


\:p


Don Cardi cool

Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #436064
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 Originally Posted By: DE NIRO
Just brought this also.Looking forward to this one.



Pretty good book DeNiro. If Costello interest you (he fascinates me) you may want to check out UNCLE FRANK by Leonard Katz.

"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Mafia Books [Re: pizzaboy] #436080
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PB: Of the two Costello books, which would you recommend?

Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turnbull] #436083
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Honestly TB, I'd go with UNCLE FRANK. I thought George Wolf white-washed his account, due to his his close friendship with Costello. It was still entertaining, though.

"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #436098
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I was wondering if there was books avaliable on each of the five familes in New York.(not including Five familes Book).

I have books on the Gambino and Bonnono Family.

Is there seperate books for- Genovese/Colombo/Luccashe.

Any help you be great..

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #436107
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Not a "history of," type of book, DeNiro. None that I can think of, anyway. However, ther are some notable books that cover certain eras.

For the Lucchese family, you might pick up THE BOYS FROM NEW JERSEY by Robert Rudolph and/or GANGBUSTERS by Ernest Volkman.

They both concentrate on the 70's and 80's.

THE BOYS FROM NEW JERSEY was the basis for the film FIND ME GUILTY.

Last edited by pizzaboy; 09/17/07 03:24 PM.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Mafia Books [Re: pizzaboy] #436124
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Cool PB thanks alot..

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #436136
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Mafia Book "wishlist"

Accardo:The Genuine Godfather by William F Roemer

The Big Bankroll:The life and times of Arnold Rothstein by Leo Katcher

Crime Boss Killing: The castellammare war by Art Montague

The Dutch Schultz Story by Ted Addy

Gangster City: The history of the underworld 1900-35 by patrick Downey

The Last Testament Of Lucky Luciano by Martin A Gosch & Richard Hammer

The Man Who Invented Murder Inc:Bugsy Siegel by David Hanna

Murder Inc; The Story of the syndicate by Burton turkas & Sid Feder

Revolt in the Mafia- Raymond V Martin

Uncle frank by leonard katz

Westies by TJ English

The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

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Re: Mafia Books [Re: DE NIRO] #436137
09/17/07 05:15 PM 09/17/07 05:15 PM
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You can find a few books on Crazy Joey Gallo.... they have some good info on the Profaci Family (now known as Colombo). Three that come to mind (and are in my own library) are:

"Joey" by Donald Goddard
"The Killing of Joey Gallo" by Harvey Aronson
"The Sixth Family" by Peter Diapoulos & Steven Linakis

The Genoveses (especially) are covered best in "The Valachi Papers" by Peter Maas. Their early years are covered in books about Lucky Luciano (of which there are many).

The Lucchese Family was the basis for "Wiseguy" by Nicholas Pileggi (and became "Goodfellas" on the silver screen).

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