I'm glad LLC agrees with me; in fact, with the logic I presented, I can't really argue with svsg either. I'm mentally mature like that. But svsg... I, personally, see a difference between a beef cow, or chicken, or pig -- specifically bred to be eaten -- than anything related to a pet. I think breeding dogs specifically for dog fights or killing (of anything) to be much worse. But that's just me. Well, not just me, but probably MOST civilized people.

But I see your argument. I just don't agree with it.

If you're a vegetarian yet have no problem breeding dogs specifically to "pull a Vick" or whatever, then how's that any better?

Quick summary: Most animals today (looking at quantity) are probably alive to begin with to be eaten. Otherwise, they wouldn't even have lived at all. Is it a horrible thing the way they're slaughtered? Probably. Most people don't see that part of it - they just order their buckets of chicken or burgers or dogs....

But I still have a hard time w/ (literally) dogs, or cats, etc. Most civilized families include dogs and cats as family members -- literally -- and THAT is my problem, that some cultures don't see that line...