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Re: Missing scene from GF 1?
[Re: goombah]
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08/05/07 02:20 PM
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Welcome, SNJ!  The "you've found your Luca Brasi" scene that you're referring to appears in the novel. Hagen, not Vito, made that statement to Michael. Much as I don't like to disagree with my friend Goombah, I don't recall it in the Saga. The question of why Vito didn't prevent Connie from marrying Carlo has come up many times on this board. Carlo certainly was a dirtbag From Da Woid Go, and Vito obviously saw through him. For all we know, Vito did remonstrate with Connie, but perhaps out of sentiment for his youngest child, and maybe to avoid domestic discord, he stopped short of forbidding her to marry him. Or, he may have taken the attitude that it was her decision to make--and she'd have to be responsible for the consequences (as in Vito telling Sonny, "Never interfere between a man and his wife"). Michael seems to have adopted a form of that attitude toward Connie. It might seem horrendously cruel and cynical for Michael to have Carlo whacked on the very day that he stood godfather to Connie and Carlo's infant son. But in the novel (and partly in the film) he rationalized it by saying it wasn't his idea to be godfather--it was Connie's idea. And how about murdering Fredo? Well, it wasn't his idea to "forgive" Fredo--it was Connie's request. Or, as Flip Wilson used to say on TV, "the devil made me do it." 
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Missing scene from GF 1?
[Re: Turnbull]
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08/05/07 08:22 PM
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Welcome, SNJ!  The "you've found your Luca Brasi" scene that you're referring to appears in the novel. Hagen, not Vito, made that statement to Michael. Much as I don't like to disagree with my friend Goombah, I don't recall it in the Saga. Perhaps I'm not correct about it being in the Saga, but that scene is in one I dvr'd Bravo this year. I believe it was referred to as the "Novella," but how much that differs from the Saga I could not state. On a side note, one scene from the novel that I never understood why it wasn't filmed was the scene in which Sonny proposed to kill Sollozzo and Sonny laughs uncontrollably. In the novel, Mike confronts Sonny and tells him to stop laughing, thus reminding everyone in the room of the similarity b/w Michael & Vito. Sonny explains "I'm not laughing at what you said, but how things turned out...All it took was a sock to the jaw. Howdaya like that?" I always felt that this scene would have added to the film.
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Re: Missing scene from GF 1?
[Re: goombah]
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08/06/07 02:24 PM
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Welcome, SNJ!  The "you've found your Luca Brasi" scene that you're referring to appears in the novel. Hagen, not Vito, made that statement to Michael. Much as I don't like to disagree with my friend Goombah, I don't recall it in the Saga. Perhaps I'm not correct about it being in the Saga, but that scene is in one I dvr'd Bravo this year. I believe it was referred to as the "Novella," but how much that differs from the Saga I could not state. I've lost track of how many versions of the films have been made and shown--and that doesn't even include the overseas versions. 
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Missing scene from GF 1?
[Re: Turnbull]
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08/07/07 07:47 PM
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Welcome, SNJ!  The "you've found your Luca Brasi" scene that you're referring to appears in the novel. Hagen, not Vito, made that statement to Michael. Much as I don't like to disagree with my friend Goombah, I don't recall it in the Saga. TB, I'd hate to challenge you on anything GODFATHER, but I too recall Vito saying to Michael, "I think you found your Luca Brasi." Perhaps it was in THE GODFATHER EPIC, which was released on vhs in the early 80's. I believe I still have mine in one of my storage units. I'll be sure to check.
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Re: Missing scene from GF 1?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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08/07/07 07:59 PM
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Welcome, SNJ!  The "you've found your Luca Brasi" scene that you're referring to appears in the novel. Hagen, not Vito, made that statement to Michael. Much as I don't like to disagree with my friend Goombah, I don't recall it in the Saga. TB, I'd hate to challenge you on anything GODFATHER, but I too recall Vito saying to Michael, "I think you found your Luca Brasi." Perhaps it was in THE GODFATHER EPIC, which was released on vhs in the early 80's. I believe I still have mine in one of my storage units. I'll be sure to check. "Well now you've got your Luca." It was Hagen who said it in the novel. I don't recall it in any version of he film.
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Re: Missing scene from GF 1?
[Re: olivant]
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08/12/07 11:09 PM
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Guiseppe Petri
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vito was referring to neri as mike's luca brasi.
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