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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
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How about every film in the Rocky series?
Or 90% of Steven Spielberg's catalogue.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
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08/05/07 12:22 AM
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How about every film in the Rocky series? Blasphemy I hope TIS does not attack you for this.
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
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How about every film in the Rocky series?
Or 90% of Steven Spielberg's catalogue. Those are pretty strong statements. The original "Rocky" was a great movie. Spielberg's list is better than most anyone else's.
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
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Spielberg makes generic/popcorn/crowd pleaser flicks, something I've never had much interest in. I wouldn't say "mainstream" because I enjoy plenty of mainstream cinema, and I don't want to look like the pompous jackass who goes out of his way to just watch independent flicks. But Spielberg needs to take a few risks before I can respect him and his generic summer blockbusters... Spielberg movies are to cinema as one night stands are to sex; a few leave a lasting impression, but for the most part they're quick fixes that fail to maintain any relevancy to you or your life. They're exciting, but they sort of fail to establish any real connections with their audience. You know?
As for Rocky... I hate the standard happy-ending sports flick. You know, like the hero is going to come out on top and learn some sort of lesson whilst the audience feels inspired, or something. I loved Raging Bull, but Raging Bull was far from your standard boxing film. It was as depressing as watching a child with downs syndrome being squashed by the revolving tires of a bus, the protagonist learns a lesson, but is the most self-destructive, self-loathing human being on the face of the earth (so much to the point that the audience must question whether or not they even like him), and the audience feels something far from inspiration. Rocky is about as sappy and happy-go-lucky as they come. It's a real head-trip, for me at least.
If you think I'm being tough on Rocky, you should hear my thoughts on the painfully mediocre Million Dollar Baby.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
[Re: long_lost_corleone]
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Umm... Schindler's List... that was a generic/popcorn/crowd pleaser flick??
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
[Re: long_lost_corleone]
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Oh, for the record, I don't think any film should be denied its way to production; I'm just utilizing hyperbole, as I've done plenty a time over the course of my exisitence on this site. Every expression is important to some extent and art--much like history--will repeat itself through the conception of inspiration. Beyond simple reincarnation, one idea brings light to another idea. Without a standard and mediocre film, we may never have a clever and cinematically profound film. Without subpar action films and B-grade horror, kung fu and crime epics, we may never have the work of Quentin Tarantino, or at least as we know it. There are plenty of other scenerio's and careers that I could say the same of, but Tarantino's seems to be the most obvious and easy to spot early influence.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
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08/05/07 01:23 AM
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And don't be knockin' Rocky or Million Dollar Baby, either - both were brilliant! Just because you don't like them doesn't make them any less entertaining.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
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Umm... Schindler's List... that was a generic/popcorn/crowd pleaser flick?? Go back and read what I said. Note that I mention "a few have a lasting impression." But honestly, is there anything less risky than making a holocaust film?
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"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
[Re: J Geoff]
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Can I please take a hit of that?
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
[Re: J Geoff]
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And don't be knockin' Rocky or Million Dollar Baby, either - both were brilliant! Just because you don't like them doesn't make them any less entertaining. Sorry, I made the mistake of assuming this thread was some how based on opinion.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
[Re: J Geoff]
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ur opin0nz sux b1g t1m3 lawl
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
[Re: olivant]
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08/05/07 11:23 AM
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I suppose I could say any movie I didn't like shouldn't have been made right? I so disagree about the Rocky movies though...especially not the first one. Also I disagree with Titantic. I loved that movie. I know many won't agree with me, but you know what opinions are like right? Anyway, among my list, but I know there are many more: Pulp Fiction (I know it's very popular and at first I was looking for reasons to like it but concluded that I simply didn't like it. Was boring) American Beauty Boogie Nights All boring and uninteresting and unfunny to me. I simply didn't like them. TIS
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
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08/05/07 11:43 AM
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I dislike a lot of films, but I don't think there's all that many (in relation to the amount I've actually seen) that I could say, "That should never have been made". I'm not sure what comprises such damnation.
Like I said, The Simpsons was the first one that sprung to mind, but only because it's out right now.
Spielberg's movies? Come on. They're far from conventional. Their narrative structure, visual superiority, technical prowess and aesthetic discipline have been and always will be forever imitated, but rarely are they matched in the realms of mainstream Hollywood Cinema. His worst (that I've seen) is Munich, and despite all the crass pretentiousness of that film, there were some lovely, visually satisfying moments in it. At worst, he's the victim of his own originality, his own self-promotion - I could easily dislike him for the same reasons I dislike Tarantino: over-familiarity, over-popular, over-influential.
Instead of "Movies That Should Never Have Been Made," I'd prefer to make a list of "Movies that make you say, 'What were they thinking?'" Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I see a lot of fantastic films being listed here simply because somebody didn't like them. The one film I listed may well be one I turn out to like... though whether or not it should be made is another matter.
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Re: Movies That Should Never Have Been Made
[Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra]
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08/05/07 11:50 AM
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Well put Capo. Not liking a film (or even hating it)doesn't necessarily mean someone didn't have a right or shouldn't have made it. I like your suggested title, "...What were you thinking." In the end though, it still comes down to opinion, some will like and some won't. TIS
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