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Re: Tom Hagen and his Mistress
[Re: olivant]
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07/30/07 11:03 PM
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Some people here have surfaced earlier scripts of II in which Hagen is shown with a mistress (some say Sonny's widow, Sandra), or skimming money from the casinos, etc. I'm glad these didn't make the final cut. The point of the "...and your mistress..." line, as it appeared in the final cut, was to underscore Michael's cruelty to a man whose loyalty was never in question, and who, just a few scenes earlier, he was telling that he was "the only one I can trust," and "you're my brother." Plus, if you catch the smirk on Neri's face, you can see that he was the source of that damaging info.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Tom Hagen and his Mistress
[Re: Turnbull]
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07/30/07 11:09 PM
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Some people here have surfaced earlier scripts of II in which Hagen is shown with a mistress (some say Sonny's widow, Sandra), or skimming money from the casinos, etc. I'm glad these didn't make the final cut. The point of the "...and your mistress..." line, as it appeared in the final cut, was to underscore Michael's cruelty to a man whose loyalty was never in question, and who, just a few scenes earlier, he was telling that he was "the only one I can trust," and "you're my brother." Plus, if you catch the smirk on Neri's face, you can see that he was the source of that damaging info. I've never been able to catch that smirk. Are you sure it's there?
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: Tom Hagen and his Mistress
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07/31/07 02:57 PM
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. . . Tom did have a dark streak to him. He wasnt as nice as i thought he was. Tom didn't seem offended when he "caught" Sonny, in the upstairs bedroom the day of Connie's wedding, playing hide the salami with a woman other than his wife. He just smiled an "understanding" smile and walked away.
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Re: Tom Hagen and his Mistress
[Re: olivant]
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07/31/07 03:42 PM
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I think Tom would help Michael with his personal remorse, how he would have handled other things would have been influential on the plot. For instance he would have opposed Vincent's fast rise to the top, I think, and he would have done a better job getting the Immobiliare thing buttoned up than Harrison did. While Tom may not have been a good wartime consigliere, he was a master at transactional law. The work he did to get the Corleones control of the casinos and getting them grandfathered in was brilliant. No doubt with Genco's help he also made millions for the Corleones and was able to "legitimize" the money through their real estate, moving and olive oil companies.
He also would have done a better job of extricating Michael from the Mob, even perhaps persuading him to throw Zasa a bone to keep him off Michael's back and avoid a hit.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
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