Originally Posted By: olivant
 Originally Posted By: johnny ola
 Originally Posted By: olivant
 Originally Posted By: johnny ola
 Originally Posted By: wtwt5237
 Originally Posted By: johnny ola

From Fredo's dialogue it seemed to me that he was never in Cuba before.

He pretended to be new to Cuba just to trick Micheal into believing he didn't know Roth.


Interesting theory, but one I don't completely subscribe to. We all know that Fredo wasnt smart enough to trick Mike, and it appears that Mike was completely taken back when Fredo made the revalation of Johnny Ola at the superman show.

I also think that Mike was constantly aware of Fredo's movements while he was in Las Vegas, and if Fredo was gone for at least 3-4 days, Mike would have known and questioned Fredo.


Ola, you're making alot of assumptions that don't merit your speculative conslusions. Pacino's acting skills properly conveyed his characters devastation upon the realization that not only had Fredo led him on about not knowing Roth and being in Cuba before, but that Fredo might very well be the traitor in the family.


I believe at the foudation of all these discussions and questions are assumptions and speculation. In any event, just for the sake of discussion, isn't it possible that Johnny Ola could have shown Fredo where the superman show was between the time Mike asked him to provide entertainment and they actually got there?


The relationship is between assumptions and speculations, not that there should not be any assumptions or speculations.

If Ola had told Fredo about such shows, it's not likely that Fredo would have commeneted that Roth would never patronize such shows.


Isn't it a fact that Ola did tell and show Fredo about the superman show? And didn't Fredo comment that Roth would never go to these types of shows?

FREDO

JOHNNY OLA told me about this place. He brought me here. I didn't believe him -- but seein' is believin', huh?



[MICHAEL glances over at FREDO.]



JUDGE DEMALCO

I see it, and I still don't believe it!



FREDO

Fifty bucks, Pat. Old Man ROTH would never come here, but Old Man JOHNNY knows these places like the back of his hand. Now watch him -- he's gonna break a cracked with it.


I love my Chrysler and tuna fish sandwiches.