Originally Posted By: DeathByClotheshanger
 Originally Posted By: johnny Ola
 Originally Posted By: DeathByClotheshanger
Was it such a stretch though?

From Wikipedia:

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Parts of the film are very loosely based on real historical events concerning the ending of the Papacy of Paul VI, and the very short Papacy of John Paul I in 1978, and the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano in 1982. Like the character Cardinal Lamberto, who becomes John Paul I, the historical John Paul I, Albino Luciani, reigned for only a very short time before being found dead in his bed with a just-completed report about the Jesuit order nearby.

Journalist David Yallop argues that Luciani was planning a reform of Vatican finances and that he died by poisoning; these claims are reflected in the film. Yallop also names as a suspect Archbishop Paul Marcinkus, who was the head of the Vatican bank, like the character Archbishop Gilday in the film. However, while Marcinkus was noted for his muscular physique and Chicago origins, Gilday is a mild Irishman.

The character of Frederick Keinszig, the Swiss banker who is murdered and left hanging under a bridge, mirrors the fate (and physical appearance) of Roberto Calvi, the Italian head of the Banco Ambrosiano who was found hanging under Blackfriars Bridge in London in 1982 (it was unclear until very recently whether it was a case of suicide or, as the Italian idiom has it, "being suicided." Courts in Italy have recently ruled the latter). The character of Licio Lucchesi, who moves between the church, organized crime and Italian politics, recalls Licio Gelli, head of the Propaganda Due Masonic lodge. The character of Joey Zasa bears many similarities to the flashy John Gotti.


There is no denying that much of what was portrayed about the Church, Pope etc. was loosely based on fact and conjecture. But how much of what happened within the Vatican was connected to the American mafia? Who was Mike's character based on? I think we might be able to agree that connecting the two, the Vatican and the American mafia, is at least a small stretch.


Well, the Corleones weren't ever really supposed to be based on a real family that way that Fontaine = Sinatra or Roth = Lansky.


I think we are getting a little off base with this thread. I don't think anyone is denying that the whole Godfather saga is loosely based on fact. In fact I think it was Turnbull who in the past has made a list of who was who. The issue of this current topic is the overuse of the Catholic Church in Godfather III, which, while being based on true incidents, was just overdone in the opinion of some on this message board. As to if it was or wasn't, that is up to the individual, and there is no definite yes or no. Like beauty, its all in the eyes of the beholder.


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