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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion [Re: svsg] #411091
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 Originally Posted By: svsg
I liked Oceans 11. The chemistry among the actors was great and I liked it for having a lot of clever action scenes compared to oceans 12. Andy garcia is totally relegated to some small role in 12 and many others were not utilized at all.
Oceans 11(nice entertainment) - **
Oceans 12(boring) - no stars


You know, OCEAN'S 12's fatal mistake....besides the plot twist making no DAMN sense at all....is that you have people that absolutely do nothing. They're bloated dead weight. Nevermind appearances of people like Willis and Izzard who just add weight to the sinking Titanic.

I still think each OCEAN'S movie should have been about Pitt/Damon/Clooney assembling 8 new criminals for each cinematic scheme. At least make it interesting at each round of bat.

OCEAN'S 13 tried to cut out some of the dead weight. Roberts & Jones were not brought back. Yet #13 did have a plot turn in the 3rd Act involving a character from OCEAN'S 12 that I could have lived without.

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BRANDED TO KILL
(First Viewing)

The film's story centers on Hanada, a.k.a. "No. 3 Killer," the third-best hit man in Japanese organized crime. Near the top of his game, his fortunes change when he encounters Misako, a mysterious, death-obsessed woman who brings him a particularly difficult mission. In a famous moment indicative of the film's eccentric sensibility, a butterfly lands on his gun's sight at the exact moment he pulls the trigger, causing him to miss the shot. This failure means that the killer becomes the target, and must run for his life from his former employers, and the mysterious "No. 1 Killer." While the film does contain some spectacular action sequences, the story is played less as a suspense thriller than as a surrealistic, psychosexual nightmare, filled with grotesque imagery and strange touches, from Hanada's fetish for the smell of boiling rice, to Misako's use of a dead bird's corpse as a rear-view mirror decoration.

This one was a little hard for me to follow but I think it's fair to say now I'm not the biggest fan of Seijun Suzuki's work. This was probably the most impressive film of his I've seen but I wouldn't really rush to see more of his work. There was a lot of imagery in this film but I felt it bounced around a lot. Towards the beginning, I didn't know if a scene was playing in real time or was a flashback.

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Transformers
Directed by Michael Bay

When I was growing I use love Transformers, but never liked the idea of a live-action movie. I went to see this last night because my friends forced me to go against my own will! I wish I had stayed home and hadn't wasted $9.

The film is about Sam Witwicky who buys his first car, which turns out to be Autobot Bumblebee. Bumblebee defends Sam and his girlfriend Mikaela Banes from the Decepticon Barricade, before the other Autobots arrive on Earth. They are searching for the Allspark, a giant...cube. The Autobots are the good guys and the Deceptions are the bad guys.

If you've seen a few of Michael Bay's films (The Rock, The Island, Bad Boys II, etc) you know what to expect. It's low on story, lame dialouge, and confusing action sequences.

Jon Voight and John Tuturro looked out of place in this film. Shai LeBeouf isn't half bad as the male lead, but everyone else is wooden. Like all Bay films everyone woman is smokin'!

Some of the scenes were beyond ridiculous and after a while I really couldn't take the film seriously. Other than some cool action scenes and the hot women the film was a major dissapointment.

Verdict: D-


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion [Re: BDuff] #411232
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Thanks BDuff, I don't think I'll see it in theaters.

Sounds like I can wait for the dvd.


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You're better off renting it. Half of the theatre had little kids who didn't understand the term "shut up".


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 Originally Posted By: BDuff
You're better off renting it. Half of the theatre had little kids who didn't understand the term "shut up".


I hate that. I had the same problem during FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER. That's another reason why I hate some of these movies having such lax ratings. Sure it gets more people into the theater, but how many of them are actually able to enjoy it? I'm almost dreading HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX next week for that very reason. Although, the kids in TRANSFORMERS behaved for me (thank Heavens). And speaking of the movie, again, I didn't grow up watching the cartoon. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with my extreme enjoyment of the film but I did love it.

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That's why I always take a hammer into the pics with me. There's nothing better than seeing someone's face when they say, "No" to my polite request for them to be quiet, and then the same person's face when I start hitting them in the skull with the weapon.


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #411302
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Actually Capo I remember you saying how you love to watch movies alone in the theaters. I'm not too far behind you my friend on that notion ;\) From my experience, it's getting worse. I just feel like asking people, "have never been to the theaters? Do you not know you're suppose to be quiet? I didn't pay $8.25 to hear your commentary of the film. SHUT THE F*CK UP!"

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I love to go to mid-day, mid-week movies, all by myself. It's really the only way I can enjoy a movie anymore. As it is, I live in the Bronx, so I have to drive up to Westchester to avoid a very obnoxious crowd.


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion [Re: BDuff] #411306
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 Originally Posted By: BDuff
Transformers
Directed by Michael Bay

When I was growing I use love Transformers, but never liked the idea of a live-action movie. I went to see this last night because my friends forced me to go against my own will! I wish I had stayed home and hadn't wasted $9.

The film is about Sam Witwicky who buys his first car, which turns out to be Autobot Bumblebee. Bumblebee defends Sam and his girlfriend Mikaela Banes from the Decepticon Barricade, before the other Autobots arrive on Earth. They are searching for the Allspark, a giant...cube. The Autobots are the good guys and the Deceptions are the bad guys.

If you've seen a few of Michael Bay's films (The Rock, The Island, Bad Boys II, etc) you know what to expect. It's low on story, lame dialouge, and confusing action sequences.

Jon Voight and John Tuturro looked out of place in this film. Shai LeBeouf isn't half bad as the male lead, but everyone else is wooden. Like all Bay films everyone woman is smokin'!

Some of the scenes were beyond ridiculous and after a while I really couldn't take the film seriously. Other than some cool action scenes and the hot women the film was a major dissapointment.

Verdict: D-


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 Originally Posted By: BDuff
You're better off renting it. Half of the theatre had little kids who didn't understand the term "shut up".


That explains why TF is making $1.4 million per hour, on average.

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Is Transformers meant to be taken seriously?


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You're better off renting it. Half of the theatre had little kids who didn't understand the term "shut up".


I hate that. I had the same problem during FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER. That's another reason why I hate some of these movies having such lax ratings. Sure it gets more people into the theater, but how many of them are actually able to enjoy it? I'm almost dreading HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX next week for that very reason. Although, the kids in TRANSFORMERS behaved for me (thank Heavens). And speaking of the movie, again, I didn't grow up watching the cartoon. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with my extreme enjoyment of the film but I did love it.


What, you loved the PG-13 DIE HARD 4. Hate to say this, but its our fault.

Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #411313
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 Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
Is Transformers meant to be taken seriously?


No more than one NYPD cop taking out German terrorists in a LA skyscraper on his own.

No more than a bunch of teenagers with 70's hairstyles revolting and destroying the Galactic Empire.

No more than two contrasted-as-hell cops having to work together and then becoming buddies from it.

No more than Errol Flynn becoming a terrorist rebel in order to defeat the evil Saxon Kingdom.

No more than Immortals chopping each others' heads off for The Game.

No more than a fucking Archaeologist fighting Nazis over a Jewish artifact in British-controlled Egypt.

Capo, its all effort...or at least hauling ass to make something worth a damn instead of another bullshit picture that Bay pumps out of his ass (besides gerbels).

BTW, those movies I mentioned:

DIE HARD
STAR WARS
LETHAL WEAPON
THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD
HIGHLANDER
RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK

Really, just because a film is popcorn-fun in origin, AND isn't supposed to be profound....doesn't mean you sack it.

Its that sort of "fuck effort" mentality why horror genre in general from Hollywood has been ASS.

Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #411331
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No more than taking Ronnie seriously.


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion [Re: pizzaboy] #411341
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 Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
 Originally Posted By: BDuff
Transformers
Directed by Michael Bay

When I was growing I use love Transformers, but never liked the idea of a live-action movie. I went to see this last night because my friends forced me to go against my own will! I wish I had stayed home and hadn't wasted $9.

The film is about Sam Witwicky who buys his first car, which turns out to be Autobot Bumblebee. Bumblebee defends Sam and his girlfriend Mikaela Banes from the Decepticon Barricade, before the other Autobots arrive on Earth. They are searching for the Allspark, a giant...cube. The Autobots are the good guys and the Deceptions are the bad guys.

If you've seen a few of Michael Bay's films (The Rock, The Island, Bad Boys II, etc) you know what to expect. It's low on story, lame dialouge, and confusing action sequences.

Jon Voight and John Tuturro looked out of place in this film. Shai LeBeouf isn't half bad as the male lead, but everyone else is wooden. Like all Bay films everyone woman is smokin'!

Some of the scenes were beyond ridiculous and after a while I really couldn't take the film seriously. Other than some cool action scenes and the hot women the film was a major dissapointment.

Verdict: D-


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Word up \:D


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #411350
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 Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
 Originally Posted By: BDuff
You're better off renting it. Half of the theatre had little kids who didn't understand the term "shut up".


I hate that. I had the same problem during FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER. That's another reason why I hate some of these movies having such lax ratings. Sure it gets more people into the theater, but how many of them are actually able to enjoy it? I'm almost dreading HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX next week for that very reason. Although, the kids in TRANSFORMERS behaved for me (thank Heavens). And speaking of the movie, again, I didn't grow up watching the cartoon. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with my extreme enjoyment of the film but I did love it.


What, you loved the PG-13 DIE HARD 4. Hate to say this, but its our fault.


I've already decided I will never pay to see another PG-13 again!


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I swore I'll never give Bay my money again after ARMAGGEDON and guess what? I'm faithful to that vow.

TRANSFORMERS really is like Bay trying his best to make a human story this side of BATMAN BEGINS or CASINO ROYALE.

Of course, BAD BOYS was Bay trying to make LETHAL WEAPON, ARMAGGEDON was Bay trying to make an action movie out of a 1970s disaster movie, THE ISLAND was Bay trying to make an action movie out of a 1970s Sci-fi movie (hell, he did! CLONUS!) and now....

Better yet, TRANSFORMERS is Bay trying to make himself a Spielberg theme park spectacle this side of JURASSIC PARK. Unbelievable CGI creatures dominating the landscape, with the humans playing set-up for these beasts.

As for the "Human Story," Bay could have told a tale about a kid growing up into a man. Not this p****-emo angst about trying to hit up with a hot girl or Bay's continuing disturbing fetish-love for cars....but you know, about a kid learning that there is a world outside of his doinky little town in the middle of no where.

If anything, TRANSFORMERS is like the clusterf*** $200 million version of THE LAST STARFIGHTER. Same basic set-up, except with that Nick Castle 1980s picture, you buy the kid wanting to escape...wanting to fly the stars...and happening to be damn good at the trailer park video game consule. When he does end up having to save the universe, you eat up its goofy but charming tale.

With TRANSFORMERS, you just want to slap Shia Lebouf around. The fact that he's playing the son of Harrison Ford in the next INDIANA JONES film, makes me wonder what in the world is Spielberg thinking.

Bay should have had the "human story" be about a younger kid who happens to discover these Transformers. Now thats a adolescent fantasy that seems more believable of a hook than a teenager wanting a car.

Anyway, Bay continues his money-wasting over-the-top spectacle-but-not-that-impressive, and if it wasn't for two reasons, I would have given this movie the same rating as I gave ARMAGGEDON and PEARL HARBOR....a Bomb score.

The two reasons?

(1) The CGI. I tell ya, while the cast didn't give a damn, Bay certainly didn't bother to bother, ILM hauled ass with the CGI. In a way, I feel bad for those guys. They work hard to create eye-popping CGI robots fight...and all for a crappy film. Its BLACK HOLE all over again. I give half-a-star as consolation to ILM.

(2) The editing. Indeed, the usual Bay fare would have, on paper, the most AMAZING sequences shot for film, but which would be completely undone by Bay's ADD-induced editing narrative which cuts and jumps all the place to the point that you lose interest and get bored.

But only 15% of the film reportedly was cut by Bay, and the rest of the film cut by Spielberg and his editors is......manageble.

Yet even the best editing of Bay-shot footage can't salvage maybe the one thing that annoyed me more than anything else about TRANSFORMERS. The humor.

I once said that there is nothing worse than a completely unfunny comedy. For a movie where robots are supposed to duke it out, I don't want a stupid PANTS joke.

People who've seen the earlier are correct. The humor is designed to cool off the "serious" drama....but there is nothing serious about TRANSFORMERS...and when certain shots are supposed to make us care or give a damn....we instead are angry at the little kids that won't shut up (thank God for bootleg!)

When Bay's best film is one that Spielberg had to salvage and recut himself...Bay is a hopeless cause. Make him bunk beds with Uwe Boll.

TRANSFORMERS (2007) - *1/2 - Fuck Michael Bay

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 Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
I swore I'll never give Bay my money again after ARMAGGEDON and guess what? I'm faithful to that vow.

TRANSFORMERS really is like Bay trying his best to make a human story this side of BATMAN BEGINS or CASINO ROYALE.

Of course, BAD BOYS was Bay trying to make LETHAL WEAPON, ARMAGGEDON was Bay trying to make an action movie out of a 1970s disaster movie, THE ISLAND was Bay trying to make an action movie out of a 1970s Sci-fi movie (hell, he did! CLONUS!) and now....

Better yet, TRANSFORMERS is Bay trying to make himself a Spielberg theme park spectacle this side of JURASSIC PARK. Unbelievable CGI creatures dominating the landscape, with the humans playing set-up for these beasts.

As for the "Human Story," Bay could have told a tale about a kid growing up into a man. Not this p****-emo angst about trying to hit up with a hot girl or Bay's continuing disturbing fetish-love for cars....but you know, about a kid learning that there is a world outside of his doinky little town in the middle of no where.

If anything, TRANSFORMERS is like the clusterf*** $200 million version of THE LAST STARFIGHTER. Same basic set-up, except with that Nick Castle 1980s picture, you buy the kid wanting to escape...wanting to fly the stars...and happening to be damn good at the trailer park video game consule. When he does end up having to save the universe, you eat up its goofy but charming tale.

With TRANSFORMERS, you just want to slap Shia Lebouf around. The fact that he's playing the son of Harrison Ford in the next INDIANA JONES film, makes me wonder what in the world is Spielberg thinking.

Bay should have had the "human story" be about a younger kid who happens to discover these Transformers. Now thats a adolescent fantasy that seems more believable of a hook than a teenager wanting a car.

Anyway, Bay continues his money-wasting over-the-top spectacle-but-not-that-impressive, and if it wasn't for two reasons, I would have given this movie the same rating as I gave ARMAGGEDON and PEARL HARBOR....a Bomb score.

The two reasons?

(1) The CGI. I tell ya, while the cast didn't give a damn, Bay certainly didn't bother to bother, ILM hauled ass with the CGI. In a way, I feel bad for those guys. They work hard to create eye-popping CGI robots fight...and all for a crappy film. Its BLACK HOLE all over again. I give half-a-star as consolation to ILM.

(2) The editing. Indeed, the usual Bay fare would have, on paper, the most AMAZING sequences shot for film, but which would be completely undone by Bay's ADD-induced editing narrative which cuts and jumps all the place to the point that you lose interest and get bored.

But only 15% of the film reportedly was cut by Bay, and the rest of the film cut by Spielberg and his editors is......manageble.

Yet even the best editing of Bay-shot footage can't salvage maybe the one thing that annoyed me more than anything else about TRANSFORMERS. The humor.

I once said that there is nothing worse than a completely unfunny comedy. For a movie where robots are supposed to duke it out, I don't want a stupid PANTS joke.

People who've seen the earlier are correct. The humor is designed to cool off the "serious" drama....but there is nothing serious about TRANSFORMERS...and when certain shots are supposed to make us care or give a damn....we instead are angry at the little kids that won't shut up (thank God for bootleg!)

When Bay's best film is one that Spielberg had to salvage and recut himself...Bay is a hopeless cause. Make him bunk beds with Uwe Boll.

TRANSFORMERS (2007) - *1/2 - Fuck Michael Bay


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I swore I'll never give Bay my money again after ARMAGGEDON and guess what? I'm faithful to that vow.

TRANSFORMERS really is like Bay trying his best to make a human story this side of BATMAN BEGINS or CASINO ROYALE.

Of course, BAD BOYS was Bay trying to make LETHAL WEAPON, ARMAGGEDON was Bay trying to make an action movie out of a 1970s disaster movie, THE ISLAND was Bay trying to make an action movie out of a 1970s Sci-fi movie (hell, he did! CLONUS!) and now....

Better yet, TRANSFORMERS is Bay trying to make himself a Spielberg theme park spectacle this side of JURASSIC PARK. Unbelievable CGI creatures dominating the landscape, with the humans playing set-up for these beasts.

As for the "Human Story," Bay could have told a tale about a kid growing up into a man. Not this p****-emo angst about trying to hit up with a hot girl or Bay's continuing disturbing fetish-love for cars....but you know, about a kid learning that there is a world outside of his doinky little town in the middle of no where.

If anything, TRANSFORMERS is like the clusterf*** $200 million version of THE LAST STARFIGHTER. Same basic set-up, except with that Nick Castle 1980s picture, you buy the kid wanting to escape...wanting to fly the stars...and happening to be damn good at the trailer park video game consule. When he does end up having to save the universe, you eat up its goofy but charming tale.

With TRANSFORMERS, you just want to slap Shia Lebouf around. The fact that he's playing the son of Harrison Ford in the next INDIANA JONES film, makes me wonder what in the world is Spielberg thinking.

Bay should have had the "human story" be about a younger kid who happens to discover these Transformers. Now thats a adolescent fantasy that seems more believable of a hook than a teenager wanting a car.

Anyway, Bay continues his money-wasting over-the-top spectacle-but-not-that-impressive, and if it wasn't for two reasons, I would have given this movie the same rating as I gave ARMAGGEDON and PEARL HARBOR....a Bomb score.

The two reasons?

(1) The CGI. I tell ya, while the cast didn't give a damn, Bay certainly didn't bother to bother, ILM hauled ass with the CGI. In a way, I feel bad for those guys. They work hard to create eye-popping CGI robots fight...and all for a crappy film. Its BLACK HOLE all over again. I give half-a-star as consolation to ILM.

(2) The editing. Indeed, the usual Bay fare would have, on paper, the most AMAZING sequences shot for film, but which would be completely undone by Bay's ADD-induced editing narrative which cuts and jumps all the place to the point that you lose interest and get bored.

But only 15% of the film reportedly was cut by Bay, and the rest of the film cut by Spielberg and his editors is......manageble.

Yet even the best editing of Bay-shot footage can't salvage maybe the one thing that annoyed me more than anything else about TRANSFORMERS. The humor.

I once said that there is nothing worse than a completely unfunny comedy. For a movie where robots are supposed to duke it out, I don't want a stupid PANTS joke.

People who've seen the earlier are correct. The humor is designed to cool off the "serious" drama....but there is nothing serious about TRANSFORMERS...and when certain shots are supposed to make us care or give a damn....we instead are angry at the little kids that won't shut up (thank God for bootleg!)

When Bay's best film is one that Spielberg had to salvage and recut himself...Bay is a hopeless cause. Make him bunk beds with Uwe Boll.

TRANSFORMERS (2007) - *1/2 - Fuck Michael Bay


Couldn't have said it better, Ronnie!


Thanks.

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But you all know deep down in your bones that I AM RIGHT.

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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I love to go to mid-day, mid-week movies, all by myself. It's really the only way I can enjoy a movie anymore. As it is, I live in the Bronx, so I have to drive up to Westchester to avoid a very obnoxious crowd.


It really doesn't matter now with all the kids being out of school. They're EVERYWHERE

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 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I love to go to mid-day, mid-week movies, all by myself. It's really the only way I can enjoy a movie anymore. As it is, I live in the Bronx, so I have to drive up to Westchester to avoid a very obnoxious crowd.


It really doesn't matter now with all the kids being out of school. They're EVERYWHERE


...and you're right there with 'em watching the Transformers. Way to go, Elias!


Hey, how's it going?
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 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I love to go to mid-day, mid-week movies, all by myself. It's really the only way I can enjoy a movie anymore. As it is, I live in the Bronx, so I have to drive up to Westchester to avoid a very obnoxious crowd.


It really doesn't matter now with all the kids being out of school. They're EVERYWHERE


...and you're right there with 'em watching the Transformers. Way to go, Elias!


OK, that made my day. \:D

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The Big Lebowski **
While I was watching this movie, I was constantly reminded of Pulp Fiction and Lock Stock. This comedy is definitely not mainstream, you will enjoy it if you have a taste for movies such as the ones I listed. I found it ok.

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Hara-Kiri **
This is a BW japanese movie. I like the way the drama builds up tension and sustains interest till the end. It is definitely not big on action. Visually appealing and a great ending. Thanks Irish for the recommendation.

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KWAIDAN
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This film contains four distinct, separate stories. "Black Hair": A poor samurai who divorces his true love to marry for money, but finds the marriage disastrous and returns to his old wife, only to discover something eerie about her. "The Woman in the Snow": Stranded in a snowstorm, a woodcutter meets an icy spirit in the form of a woman spares his life on the condition that he never tell anyone about her. A decade later he forgets his promise. "Hoichi the Earless": Hoichi is a blind musician, living in a monastery who sings so well that a ghostly imperial court commands him to perform the epic ballad of their death battle for them. But the ghosts are draining away his life, and the monks set out to protect him by writing a holy mantra over his body to make him invisible to the ghosts. But they've forgotten something. "In a Cup of Tea": a writer tells the story of a man who keep seeing a mysterious face reflected in his cup of tea.

I sometimes wish more movies would be like this. Instead of just a three hour story, we get 4 seperate, smaller stories over the course of the film. Anyone of these films would have been fantastic on their own, but to combine all 4 of them under one title was unbelievable. The small set designs and use of the colors blue and orange (particularly in stories 2 & 3) were fantastic! As such, thanks for the reco Capo

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 Originally Posted By: svsg
The Big Lebowski **
While I was watching this movie, I was constantly reminded of Pulp Fiction and Lock Stock. This comedy is definitely not mainstream, you will enjoy it if you have a taste for movies such as the ones I listed. I found it ok.


This and SNATCH are probably my 2 favorite comedies of all-time

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 Originally Posted By: svsg
Hara-Kiri **
This is a BW japanese movie. I like the way the drama builds up tension and sustains interest till the end. It is definitely not big on action. Visually appealing and a great ending. Thanks Irish for the recommendation.


No problem man. Glad you enjoyed it. I would also recommend KWAIDAN, which was also directed Masaki Kobayashi

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