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Why Would Tom Say That?
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08/07/06 11:23 AM
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In watching GF1 last night on TCM, a question occurred to me:
Why did Tom say to Sollozzo that even Sonny wouldn't be able to call off Luca Brasi?
It seems to be very out of character for Tom to say something like that in general, and all the more inexplicable since Luca was pretending to be dissatisfied with the Corleones at that point. (Actually, he was dead, but Tom didn't know that.)
Was this just a mistake on Tom's part, or was there some angle he was working?
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Re: Why Would Tom Say That?
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08/07/06 12:32 PM
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I think Tom was referring to the fact that Luca was totally and exclusively loyal to Vito, and reported directly to him--not through Tom, Sonny or the caporegimes. We saw this when, after the Sollozzo meeting, Vito said to Tom, "Send Luca Brasi to see me." And when he gave his order to Luca to "go to the Tattaglias, make them think that you're not too happy with our family, find out what he's got under his fingernails," he told it to Luca alone, without Tom or anyone else present. Therefore, Tom probably was telling Sollozzo the unvarnished truth when he said, "Even Sonny won't be able to call off Luca"--Sonny had no authority over Luca, and Luca would have been so outraged over the killing of his Don that nothing would stop him.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Why Would Tom Say That?
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08/08/06 03:36 PM
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...and his loyalty and its explaination is explained in the book - giving weight to why Neri was Michael's Luca -
in both cases a man is backed into a wall and given an out by their respective Don's in exchange for loyalty and limitless violence if called on. Neither man drifted towards the Corleones and both started as the feared right hand - a wild card...
granted Neri went on to use his brain a bit more than his deadly skills, but the business changed quite a bit over the years
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Re: Why Would Tom Say That?
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08/09/06 02:22 PM
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it was a scare tactic.....Tom knew that Luca was a feared man, and that he was loyal to Vito.....that was Vito's downfall, he asked Luca to go to the Tatallias and act unhappy.....they all knew it was a set up...so they were ready for Luca before he even got there. So Tom was trying to get Solozzo to back off......that's all.
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Re: Why Would Tom Say That?
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08/09/06 02:30 PM
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mayb , this is a little farfetched, tom was acting like he didnt know Luca had gone to the Tattaglias , unless I'm mistaken Vito/Luca dont tell anyone what ther doing, and he was just suggesting that Luca loved Vito and would kill anyone who dared harm him remember vito seen luca privately
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Re: Why Would Tom Say That?
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08/09/06 04:04 PM
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Good point A-Lee......I think you are correct, Tom may have been against that move had he had known the Don wanted to do that....
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Re: Why Would Tom Say That?
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08/09/06 04:16 PM
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You may be onto something there. I hadn't considered that Tom may not have known of Luca's assignment. I couldn't imagine that Tom, no matter how much stress he was under, would reveal something that would sign Luca's death certificate.
But if he didn't know, it makes sense.
The theory that only Vito knew about Luca's assignment is bolstered by the confusion among the sons and the capos about his whereabouts after the shooting.
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