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Re: Vito's New York House
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06/13/06 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by dontomasso: So my question is did the Corleones move to the Makk and give Clemenza their old house which we see in GF I and which then was passed to Frankie, or did Frankie get the house at the mall? And if so why the For Sale sign? It was originally planned that the Corleones would wrap up their enterprises in NYC and move to Nevada. The novel and Part I ended without foresight of a sequel. Part II had to change the storyline a little for the sake of continuity.
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Re: Vito's New York House
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06/13/06 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by SC: [It was originally planned that the Corleones would wrap up their enterprises in NYC and move to Nevada.
The novel and Part I ended without foresight of a sequel. Part II had to change the storyline a little for the sake of continuity.
It was originally planned that the Corleones would wrap up their enterprises in NYC and move So is this just one of those holes in the story or is there something more to it, like "Who opened the drapes?"
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Re: Vito's New York House
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06/13/06 02:38 PM
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'Who opened the drapes...' IS a hole in the story. A black hole, like the ones in outer space...that we on the BB insist on trying to fill. Anyway, I don't feel the sale of the house is necessarily a 'hole'...especially the way it is explained above by Turnbull. I vaguely recall a thread on this topic or something closely related, I guess a few years ago. It was suggested that the 'for sale' sign was a front of some sort, and the house was to be purchased by a family or company already associated with the Corleones, and would therefore still be under their control and ready for Clemenza, his bride, and the cannoli's to move right in. Or did I dream all that.... Apple
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Re: Vito's New York House
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06/13/06 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa:
I vaguely recall a thread on this topic or something closely related, I guess a few years ago. It was suggested that the 'for sale' sign was a front of some sort, and the house was to be purchased by a family or company already associated with the Corleones, and would therefore still be under their control and ready for Clemenza, his bride, and the cannoli's to move right in.
Or did I dream all that....
Apple Either way it sounds like smart thinking, Apple.
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Re: Vito's New York House
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06/13/06 06:04 PM
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Does that mean that Zsa Zsa got the house after Pentangeli? Seriously, Apple is correct. There was a post about this a while back and I believe that most of us came to the conclusion that the for sale sign was just a front, a dummy company set up, to make it look as though Genco Olice Oil and The Corleones no longer held any interests in New York. Clemenza probably 'purchased' the Corleone Mall through and from that dummy corporation, enabling him to start his own family while in reality becoming an extended arm of the Corleones. It was Michael's way of keeping his thumb on things in New York and at the same time severing all ties, on the surface, with any and all New York interests. Don Cardi
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Re: Vito's New York House
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06/15/06 10:54 AM
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One could probably assume Frankie was the last owner of the house, wouldn't the Federal Government sieze it?
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Re: Vito's New York House
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06/15/06 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by stavka: One could probably assume Frankie was the last owner of the house, wouldn't the Federal Government sieze it? One of the original purposes of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly reffered to as The RICO Act, was to seize all of the assets of criminal organizations and basically cripple the economic strength of these groups. But the RICO act was not passed until 1970. So obviously it was NOT in effect back during the time period that GFII is taking place. Therefore the government would not have the legal authority to sieze Frankie's assets. Don Cardi
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Re: Vito's New York House
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05/29/07 02:43 AM
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Maybe the Mall will become an ideal place for drug deals.
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