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Re: Clemenza and Tessio - I'm confused!
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04/23/06 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by claytoncansing: This is driving me crazy. I'm new to the GF movies. I've seen them about 7 times each and I'm still catching on. The book is good, too.
"All of these men were good listeners; patient men."
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Re: Clemenza and Tessio - I'm confused!
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04/23/06 11:28 AM
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Vito, Clemenza and Tessio were contemporaries, and were about the same age. The actors who played Tessio and Clemenza in their youth in GFII were chosen, in part, because they bore some general resemblance to Abe Vigoda and Richard Castellano in GF.
The scene that you cited is one of the most important in the entire GF Trilogy because it shows Vito, who previously was almost shy and retiring, deciding to take his fate in his hands and start on a life of crime by killing Fanucci. It also shows an important transition among the three pals: By being the only one who has the coglioni to stand up to Fanucci, Vito asserts himself as the boss of the trio, instead of Clemenza. Note that, previously, Clemenza was acting like a bigshot, and bossing Vito around. If you own the DVD set, you will find a couple of deleted scenes on the extras disc that are very revealing: After the dress robbery, Clemenza makes Vito wait in the truck while he has sex with one of the women he's selling dresses to, then orders Vito to make more deliveries. But in another deleted scene, after Vito kills Fanucci, Clemenza is very humble (doffing his hat in Vito's presence) as he introduces the young Hyman Roth.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Clemenza and Tessio - I'm confused!
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04/26/06 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by claytoncansing: I just checked netflix and it lists a bonus disk that can be rented separately from the movies. This may be the bonus disk with the deleted scenes. I'll see if it is when it arrives and let you all know. Is this the bonus disk from the dvd set?
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Re: Clemenza and Tessio - I'm confused!
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04/26/06 10:25 PM
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Re: Clemenza and Tessio - I'm confused!
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05/01/06 09:38 PM
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One thing I found interesting about the young Clemenza, is that he would freely shout and holler at Vito when he didn't agree with him. But after Vito killed Ciccio...Clemenza never did again...which I think is indicative of Clemenza's overall loyalty and admiration of Vito, which would be proved by him never selling out
Sonny - Well then, business will have to suffer, all right? And listen, do me a favor, Tom. No more advice on how to patch things up, just help me win, please
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Re: Clemenza and Tessio - I'm confused!
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05/01/06 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by claytoncansing: I wondered who exactly it was with Vito when he killed Don Cicci. Wasn't it Genco? I think that was his name? Who else went? Don Tomasino takes Vito to see Cicci. I think there's at least one other person in the car.
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Re: Clemenza and Tessio - I'm confused!
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05/02/06 05:21 AM
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I think Hollywood meant Fanucci instead of Ciccio. We don't see any flashback scene with Clemenza after Vito killes Don Ciccio.
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Re: Clemenza and Tessio - I'm confused!
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05/02/06 08:19 AM
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Yes, Fanucci, My mistake.
But Hey Ciccio too, when Clemenza heard about that, Vito would have gone even higher in his estimations
Sonny - Well then, business will have to suffer, all right? And listen, do me a favor, Tom. No more advice on how to patch things up, just help me win, please
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