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Re: ch Shogun
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03/27/07 10:34 PM
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"I piss on you and your country!" It was so remarkable to see the low esteem that the Japs had for the Englishmen at the beginning.
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/27/07 10:51 PM
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"I piss on you and your country!" It was so remarkable to see the low esteem that the Japs had for the Englishmen at the beginning. I'm looking forward to LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA on dvd, I missed it in the movies.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/28/07 12:04 AM
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Does the TV series have Richard Chamberlain or was he only in the movie? The 2 hour tv movie is just a very condensed version of the mini-series starring Richard Chamberlain, kind of like ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA, before it was restored to it's original length.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/28/07 09:06 PM
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It's my favorite mini-series ever. It's a sweeping epic, on the scale of the trilogy. I don't wanna sound like a nostalgic old man but that was really a golden age for the mini-series. ROOTS, THE HOLOCAUST, SHOGUN, etc... They just don't produce them for network television anymore. Don't get me wrong, HBO and SHOWTIME have put out some beauties over the last few years, but there was just something about a big event mini-series on network tv during the "sweeps" weeks of november and february. Then again, maybe I'm just crazy.
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/28/07 09:27 PM
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Mini-series were huge in the old Network days because that was the only thing on TV.
After cable arrived, the epic mini-series for TV lost their luster and audiences. Thats why the networks don't bother anymore.
Better yet, what about the Made-For-TV movies that were at times as good as most motion pictures in their heyday?
Take for example a flick I reviewed weeks back...THE DAY AFTER. That nuclear-armaggeddon drama was really good from Nick Meyer, and hell it played well in European/Latin American theatres.
Another example is one that should be on DVD: John Carpenter's 3-hour ELVIS movie with a very young and just post-Disney Kurt Russell. In the first of their many director/star team-ups, they delivered maybe the first Elvis biopic in the wake of The King's death. Besides, ELVIS actually beat out a re-airing of GONE WITH THE WIND in the ratings.
Better yet, remember when movies shown on network TV meant something? Yet with cable TV and HBO, the luster is gone. Thats why the networks rarely play movies, and I think its only ABC now that still does it weekly.
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/29/07 03:17 AM
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I don't wanna sound like a nostalgic old man but that was really a golden age for the mini-series. ROOTS, THE HOLOCAUST, SHOGUN, etc...
Don't forget "Rich Man, Poor Man", one of tv's best mini-series.
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/29/07 09:26 PM
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I don't wanna sound like a nostalgic old man but that was really a golden age for the mini-series. ROOTS, THE HOLOCAUST, SHOGUN, etc...
Don't forget "Rich Man, Poor Man", one of tv's best mini-series. You're killing me SC. That's a great mini-series. The Jordache brothers are the perfect example, even more than the brothers Corleone, how brothers who are raised in an identical environment can turn out completely different. BTW - The mini-series was, of course, based on Irwin Shaw's novel, but the novel actually sprang from a short story he wrote for Playboy. Can you imagine ? A short story evolving into a 12 part mini-series.
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/29/07 11:05 PM
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Ben Gazzara WAS great!! The whole cast was. One of the few films that lived up to my expectations after reading the book.
Uris is one of my favorite authors. Although Exodus was unbelievably moving and well-written, it is QBVII that stays with me. During the portion of the book that deals with the trial, my brother literally could barely put the book down. He used to even take it in the car so he could read it at red lights.
I never saw The Killing of a Chinese Bookie.
Honestly SB, I've never read either of the two, but on your recommendation I'll be logging onto abebooks very shortly.
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/30/07 03:59 AM
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You're killing me SC. That's a great mini-series. The Jordache brothers are the perfect example, even more than the brothers Corleone, how brothers who are raised in an identical environment can turn out completely different.
I had seen it when it was originally aired and loved it but had almost forgotten about it. Our 3rd Stooge was kind enough to send me a copy of it last year and I had a hard time tearing myself away from the tv once I started watching it. Anything that Nick Nolte did after that was secondary. Great story, great acting, great mini-series! (I didn't know that it had come from a short story).
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Re: ch Shogun
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03/30/07 08:18 AM
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FWIW Roots is coming on the TV1 channel I beleive Easter Sunday. I bought the DVD some time ago. To me, "Roots" was the best mini-series ever aired. I was blown away by it, especially after reading the book. It got me to start researching my own family's genealogy, a hobby that I still pursue to this day. I'd love to see the aftermath of "Roots" (in which Alex Haley goes back to Africa and meets his ancestors) again. Its not in the DVD collection (it was only shown on tv many years ago). EXTREMELY touching!
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