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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/27/05 01:42 AM
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You really should read the book. It goes a LONG way to helping you understand the movie.
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/27/05 03:37 AM
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While I agree, overall, that the best version to have is the Saga, it's worth mentioning, however, that many scenes and much dialogue have been censored: Luca's garroting, Sonny and Lucy's "encounter" during the wedding, Sonny's death, etc. It's really a shame that there isn't a totally uncut version of the Saga on cable (or DVD, for that matter). After all, if Comedy Central can air the South Park Movie totally uncut... Signor V.
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/27/05 11:21 AM
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I agree: it would be wonderful to have a totally uncensored DVD chronological version that includes all the deleted scenes in place (and perhaps several more that were never released, like Michael's revenge on Fabrizio). The censored lines are sometimes very funny: Sonny says of hiding the gun in the restaurant: "I don't want my brother comin' outta that toilet with just a stick in his hand" ; Frankie telling Michael, "Clemenza promised them [the Rosatos] ush-gatz" ; Bonasera telling the Don, "And those two punks, they smiled at me." Gee, I felt awfully enlightened and moral thanks to those "improvements."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/27/05 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Enzo Scifo: Btw Turnbull, we already have a killing of Fabrizio in the Saga (when he enters his car), so the scene where Michael kills him with a lupara can never appear in the movie. Unless as an extra, but not on the place where it should be. If you get what I mean... I realize that, Enzo, but maybe Paramount can resurrect Fab. Instead of the Second Coming, it can be the Second Killing.
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/27/05 08:18 PM
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I have always wanted to see more of business back in the old days. If they make a GF4 i would like to see more of when clemenza, tessio and vito were just starting the family. i felt the parts in GF2 were vague.
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/27/05 09:32 PM
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The closest thing to the Saga is the EPIC, which is also in chronological order, with some deleted scenes. However, I must be honest by saying that although it is nice every once in a while to watch the Saga and The Epic in chronological order, Godfather II is really meant to be watched on it's own, with the flashback scenes, as they coordinate with what is going on in Michael's life and what went on in young Vito's life. But the EPIC is the the closest thing to the Saga, uncensored and uncut, as your going to get. Don Cardi
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/28/05 07:43 PM
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I'm a bit confused about one thing - apologies if this has already been done to death, but: Is the Epic the same thing as the TV Saga, but uncensored? Signor V.
"For me, there's only my wife..."
"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
"Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it? Every, every minute?"
"No. Saints and poets, maybe... they do some."
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/28/05 09:50 PM
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nothins better than the original
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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12/29/05 07:40 PM
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Not while my mother is alive, you have the DVD trilogy with GF3! Wonderful! I've been hoping someone would have the GF3 disc so he/she could answer a question for me. Next time you watch it, could you tell me if Michael still wears his wedding ring in that one? I've been asking this in another thread; only D Burghardt could answer (and he said "yes"), but he's going by memory. Ideally, I'd like to also have corroborating evidence from a recent viewing . (But I do appreciate D Burghardt's taking the time to reply .) And thanks, Don Cardi, for the info about the various versions. You've ended my "collection confusion." I'm going to save this thread for future reference so I'll know what's included in any version of GF that I come across.
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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01/17/06 02:59 PM
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Hello, I am new to the board and was looking at some of the threads when i noticed this one. I have the GF Trilogy on VHS, it contains the chonological version of GF1 & 2 as well as GF3, it has the deleted scenes some have mentioned but is not edited, i.e. Luca's garroting is shown in its entirety, Sonny and Lucy upstairs on the wedding day is included etc etc. I am sure this has been discussed before, but does anyone know or has anyone heard of them ever releasing the chronological trilogy (1901-1980)on DVD, i cannot find it on DVD anywhere.
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Re: Best version of GF Trilogy?
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01/18/06 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra: The Saga misses the whole emotional irony of Part II entirely, for me. First time I watched the films was in this chronological form. I'd recommend it to fans as a once-only experience; otherwise, watch them in the theatrical order of release. The five-disc set is the best to buy. Capo is right. It should be watched as it was meant to be watched, the way that it was originally put out, especially GFII : Originally posted by Don Cardi: I must be honest by saying that although it is nice every once in a while to watch the Saga and The Epic in chronological order, Godfather II is really meant to be watched on it's own, with the flashback scenes, as they coordinate with what is going on in Michael's life and what went on in young Vito's life.
Watching GFII in it's original form is the best way. It has a much better and totally different meaning than the chronological version. Don Cardi
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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