0 registered members (),
66
guests, and 32
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Toodoped: Fuck the ScottB & Button/Zipper Pants sites and fuck their paywalls. This forum gives you everything for free and so best wishes and good health to both JGeoff and TB!
Toodoped: Cheers and stay tuned for more free information.
Toodoped: Cant believe that some posters need to open three different threads so they can advertise their projects, and also talk to themselves with the help of different accounts. What is the world coming to?!
Toodoped: whoomp there it is! whoomp there it is! lol
Toodoped: a bird told me that the zipper pants site is slowly going down lol lol lol
Toodoped: The best fun for me is being the puppeteer of a complete idiot lol lol
Toodoped: ...and screw all paywalls and paying sites. They wont give you shit
Toodoped: Someone needs to unzip lots of zipper pants, so she or it can give birth to the Button Guys lol lol
Toodoped: I said I creep and I crawl and I creep and I crawl And I creep and I crawl creep creep lol
Toodoped: Lots of "amnesia"...some people are posting the same stuff over and over, and every time they are happy like small kids lol
Toodoped: a small reminder...screw all paywalls!
Toodoped: Anyone heard from @BigTuna? He is absent for quite some time...I hope is ok
Toodoped: Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
Toodoped: Thanks buddy! We should continue fighting against these lying paying sites and to protect everyone on this forum, especially the younger generation or posters.
Toodoped: these days lots of people that I know lost their families and everything they had because its legit and even youngsters can chip in
Toodoped: Same as the mob paying sites...ppl pay for "Disneyland" and wiki mob stuff, something which they can find it on their own with a simple google search
VanillaLimeCoke: Lousy school violence these days. Not even a 6th of the way through September and we've already had a psychotic violent school shooting.
Toodoped: Word. Few days ago, over here, they caught one teenager with a gun and more than 60 bullets, while going to school. I wonder what was his plan ?!
Toodoped: Damn....the retard slowly became a stalker and he's following me whenever I make a post so he can bump up his own $0,5 "projects" lol lol "IT" is finished and I love it lol
Toodoped: still talking to yourself, a stupido?! lol lol
Toodoped: hahahahahaha I can do it all day long
Toodoped: Cant believe this shit...im off to find some real pussy
Toodoped: aaaaand....the retarded stalker is back again
Toodoped: For those who enjoyed the "TD's Free Outfit Articles 2023/24" thread, well thanks to @TB for making it a sticky on the first page in the OC forum so everyone can enjoy it. Again, I want to personally say thanks to TB, JGeoff and the whole GBB forum. Salut
VanillaLimeCoke: I can’t take it anymore. Everything has gotta change. Or at least a lot.
Toodoped: Screw the world bro...the main thing today is to take care of you and yours.
VanillaLimeCoke: I’m hoping and praying that 2025 will be so much better. …. for real …. Too
Giacomo_Vacari: Damn, he is posting the same things over and over, nothing new. Watch out the flu is bad this year. January 20th Trump gets sworn in, and hopefully turn things around.
VanillaLimeCoke: Yeah, but they’re already planning things so he can’t turn them around
VanillaLimeCoke: Biden’s pardened over 8000 people, most of which were issued in the last 2-3 months
hoodlum: Yes, most likely 2 piss off that crybaby & compulsive liar now sadly in office.
Jason1969: Hey! After applying months ago, I finally got my button and was accepted as a member!
NYMafia: Just when I thought I was out…they pull me back in!
NYMafia: Cardinal Robert Prevost becomes the first ever American-born pontiff of the world's 1.4 Billion Catholics: Pope Leo XIV.
hoodlum: My 15 yr. old grandson who thinks his generation invented all got into a small debate.....I asked him 2 explain the old (Archie Bunkeresque) tale..."You don't buy beer,,,,You rent it..Needless 2 say , he was dumfounded ....stupid little fuck...
NYMafia: Hey! Paisan. Thatsa Somma Spicy Meeta Balla U Gotta Da, Kid!
NYMafia: ...Take Alka-Seltzer for fast relief
|
|
Forums21
Topics43,503
Posts1,092,081
Members10,381
|
Most Online1,254 Mar 13th, 2025
|
|
|
Re: "micheal corleone says hello"
[Re: Turnbull]
#348609
12/08/06 03:19 PM
12/08/06 03:19 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,724 AZ
Turnbull
|

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,724
AZ
|
I’d like to go through the reasons why Roth didn’t engineer Frankie’s survival one more time:
First, it would have been nearly impossible for Roth to arrange the cop’s entry to save Frankie when literally a few seconds separated him from life and death. The cop was not part of the plan. He was surprised that Richie’s bar was open, and immediately suspicious and wary of Frankie’s legs sticking out of the doorway to the rear of the bar. The Rosatos weren’t expecting the cop. They panicked when he started toward Frankie’s body. Carmine Rosato almost blew his head off (until Richie cried, “Carmine, NO-O-O-O…”). They dashed out of the bar, knocking the cop over, and ran into a gunfight. The cop was wounded in the gunfight—you see his partner propping him up near their patrol car. No way was that cop part of the plan. If he wasn’t, could he have been an unwitting patsy for Roth? If so, how? Did some higher-up in the police department who was on Roth’s payroll call the cop and tell him, “OK, Shultz, show up at Richie’s bar at exactly 3:42 and thirty six seconds on Tuesday afternoon—ya got that? Three forty two and thirty six seconds. Now let’s synchronize watches…” Did Roth or someone in his employ call the precinct and tell them, “Something fishy’s going on in Richie’s bar; I think you should send someone, but not until three forty two and thirty six seconds”; or hope that the cop would arrive at the exact moment to save Frankie? I don’t think so.
Second, Frankie had lured Michael to Havana for two purposes: to get the $2 million, and to have him whacked by his government pals. Why would he risk everything on an impossible, split-second-timed plan to save Frankie so that he could testify against Michael months down the road—when, according to Roth’s plan, Michael would already be long dead? 90caliber offers an interesting idea: Frankie’s survival was a backup for Roth in case the Havana assassination failed. Since the Tahoe assassination failed, Roth might have wanted a backup for Havana. But I don’t think so: The Tahoe plan was far riskier than Havana. Roth needed to sneak two gunmen out of New York, and their machineguns, into Michael’s heavily guarded compound, then arrange for them to be killed. Very risky. But Roth already had a contingency: Frank Pentangeli. He knew that Frankie would be at the party, contentious over Michael’s support of Roth and the Rosatos. Therefore, Frankie would make the perfect fall guy. So, if the hit succeeded, Michael’s successors would come after Frankie. And, even if it failed, Frankie would still be regarded as the guilty party—and Michael would come after him. That’s exactly what Michael led him to believe when he visited Roth in Miami. By contrast, the Havana assassination plan was a slam-dunk for Roth. He was the most powerful gringo in Havana, thanks to his long-term friendship and partnership with the Cuban President. He could have his pal Batista squash Michael like a bug. What was Michael’s bodyguard (formidable though he seemed) compared with all the military that Roth could bring to bear? We saw what happened when that elite-looking military group double-timed down the hospital corridor and riddled the bodyguard with bullets without breaking stride. Roth didn’t think he needed a backup because, as far as he was concerned, Michael was a dead man the moment he stepped off the plane in Havana. Too bad for Roth that he never counted on Michael figuring out that he was behind the Tahoe shooting; and Batista abdicating.
So, why did Tony Rosato say, “Michael Corleone says hello”? As others have pointed out, the script went through many iterations; and in an earlier iteration, the script called for Roth having engineered Frankie’s survival. Also, as others have noted, GFII, like all movies, was filmed in sequences that suited the production schedule, not that followed the actual running narrative. A simple explanation is that the “Michael Corleone says hello” scene was filmed while the Roth-engineering-Frankie’s-survival idea was part of the script. Later, FFC thought better of that idea (probably because it was too far-fetched) and dropped it, but retained the earlier filmed sequence—either because he liked the way it played, or because it was already in the can and some or all of the actors had been released, making it too hard (or costly) to reshoot, or because he was careless. This happened elsewhere in GFII: Last year, one of our sharp-eyed posters spotted Questadt in the businessmen’s meeting with Batista—sitting in a chair right behind Roth. There was absolutely no logical reason for Questadt to be in that scene—none whatsoever. What’s more, if Michael had noticed him there, he’d have known he “belonged to Roth”; and when Questadt turned up as the Senate lawyer, Michael would never, ever have perjured himself. So what happened? Sure enough, another poster turned up an earlier version of the script in which Tom and Michael refer to Questadt before the Havana meeting as someone who could help them with Geary and gaming matters in Nevada. Evidently the businessmen’s meeting scene was filmed while that script was still operative. Later, FFC reconsidered and dropped that idea, reserving Questadt solely as the Senate lawyer. But he retained the scene with Questadt sitting behind Roth—probably because he didn’t want to have to reshoot it, and figured that nobody’d notice Questadt in it. Of course, he hadn’t counted on the sharp-eyed people on these Boards!
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
|
|
|
|