We are on topic Ronnie.

Why has the U.S sent it's detainees to places like East Germany, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Italy, etc etc for questioning/interrogation? They send them to places outside U.S soil(Guantanamo) b/c the tactics that are used there are NOT used in the U.S. Now we can't YET say for certainty that these tactics are illegal, but if they are legal why would the US outsource much of its interrogations? These old Soviet ex-KGB and ex-German Stasi sites(Eastern Europe) may not be the torture haven that they were in the old days, but they use tactics that are a little more 'abrasive' then what the US uses. Its this outsourcing of interrogation that we are talking about here.

So Ronnie you say the "US will never allow it(charges against Rumsfeld)". But its not just the US that the Germans are bringing these charges against. They are also bringing charges against the German element who actually carried out the torture/interrogation. Someone in Germany blew the whistle, and soon these US detainee spots like Italy and Spain(as the article says) will do the same.

"But hey we are talking about cold blooded killers who brutally massacred 3,000 ppl on 911. F* the terrorists, we use whatever tactics necessary inside which ever countries that will allow it, so we can prevent 911."----Thats understood, but now you open the Pandora's Box. If the US says LEGALLY that it can "torture", and the US says LEGALLY that it can invade Iraq, then country X can LEGALLY use torture on terrorists Y, and country X can LEGALLY invade country Y. (SLIPPERY SLOPE)