Klydon

You make a good point. After everybody has played their final game by early December, Michigan still may be the #2 team in the country. Regardless, they had their shot and didn't come through. A neutral field for OSU-Michigan defeats the purpose IMO.

I think a great Big 10 BCS bowl matchup of 1 loss teams would be Michigan-Wisconsin.

Notre Dame sucks.

Brady Quinn sucks.

Next yr Weis has a QB he actually recruited.

So does Miami At least Notre Dame was an above .500 team

ND's last 3 losses
-USC
-Michigan
-Ohio St.
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Hey Irish how come you didn't post a picture of the Texas loss this week?

Hope you Ohio St fans know why I was not as high on the Buckeyes as some. That win against Texas meant little.

As always, the pollsters look to the 1940's to overrate Notre Dame. How come whenever Notre Dame plays someone halfway decent, they either struggle or lose? NO, Air Force does not count.

As for Miami, that's an abbiration dude. You can thank Larry Coker. He's gone now. Why don't you tell Notre Dame to stop being such pussies and schedule us?

Can't happen, each conference is only allowed 2 BCS berth's.

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know that.

I'm just waiting until next saturday the big 12 championship game between Nebraska Cornhuskers & Oklahoma Sooners. Both teams are pretty evenly matched.

I may live in Nebraska but I'll be rooting for the Oklahoma Sooners. Which will pit me against everyone I work with.

What I find ironic about this machtup is that this will be the first meeting in the big 12 title game between the 2 most dominate teams from the old big 8.

Look at how far ND fell in all the polls as an indicator how overrated they were this year. Their last 3 losses, dating back to the Fiesta Bowl, have been by at least 14 points per game. They have not beaten a top echelon opponent in 2006 and if they play Michigan in the Rose Bowl, will probably have their asses handed to them again.

The thing I don't get is how Brady Quinn gets so much attention. If he can't win a meaningful NCAA game, who in the hell is that supposed to translate in the pros? Let Al Davis take him so that we can all but guarantee he will be a complete flop.

He got so much attention AFTER Charlie Weis got ahold of him and completely turned his career around. Quinn is a Willingham recruit, not a Weis recruit. W/O Weis he would never have attained such status, the only reason he is slated as a first round pick is b/c he has spent 2 yrs under Charlie Weis. Some scouts give an awful lot of creedence to who coached the qb, and sometimes overlook the qb's lack of skills, mental or physical.

Next yr Weis will have a qb that he recruited, and I expect the ND era of college football will begin again. ND loses almost all it's starters though, so, it may take a cpl of yrs.

By all accounts pro scouts rate Quinn very highly. His skills, head and toughness will serve himwell at the next level.

Saturday night, I thought he played very well considering that his receivers weren't getting much separation, he was under pressure, and quite a few balls were dropped. He runs well and has excellent pocket presence. He's led the team in some impressive come from behind wins.

Ya you are right Kly, but again, before Weis came to ND Bradie was a nobody. Pro scouts rate him high NOW, mostly b/c of his association with Weis. If Ty Willingham was still coaching at ND then Bradie Quinn would not be in our discussion, nor would he be a high draft pick..... But I agree, he has good presence and has had some nice comebacks.

I heard Bob Davie during Saturday night's game talk about him as a top 3 pick. Back in June that was a popular notion, not so much anymore. That makes about as much sense as Colt McCoy being a Heisman candidate. But Bradie has been hyped as the number 1 player since last February. However, I will be very interested to see where he actually goes on draft day.

Remember, college sports is a lot like politics. Certain players and certain universities get to have their names plugged into everyone's consiousness. Schools like ND and Texas are two of the bigger spenders. As a Texas fan it was soooo very funny to see my university pop up on espn commercials, or Colt McCoy for Heisman, or analysts picking them to win it all when they knew it could never happen. Some of that was to hype the OSU-Texas game, but bottom line is that $$$ talks in this sport/business. As for Bradie, I figure next season ND will have YET ANOTHER 'Quinn' that they can hype as the next Joe Montana.

Actually Quinn was a highley recruited player out of High School. I believe his top schools were OSU, Mich, ND, USC, and Florida. He had a pick of any school he wanted. He was talked about as the next(perhaps only) greatest QB to come out of the state of Ohio. And there were talks of him playing on sundays way back in his high school days.

As a Notre Dame fan, I remember a buzz about Quinn coming out of Dublin, OH (I believe). He certainly flourished under Weiss.

It makes me think...what if Ron Powlus had Weiss as a coach for three years. Lou Holtz was a great coach, but he emphasized a strong ground game and Bob Davie was a defensive whiz, but not much else. While Powlus was a good QB and holds many of the school passing records, he is looked at as a failure because he couldn't live up to the enormous hype.

I don't think there was ever as much hype around a high school football player as there was around Powlus.

You mean Ron(he's gonna win 3 Heismans) Powlus! There might be a player w/ as much hype if Beno Cook gets a say.

There are lots and lots and lots of big time recruits who never even see the field. Ya, Bradie was a big recruit, he went to ND he must have been. But he was nearly run out of town w/ Ty Willingham. Then Charlie Weis comes along with his slip screen passes and super bowl charm. Again, we'll wait for draft day and see who actually picks him and where.

Triple OT with WV... I'm fucking PROUD of Rutgers for hanging in there! Even tho that butter-fingers couldn't hold on to that TD pass from a QB who just normally can't throw to begin with -- regardless of that -- I'm proud of them for hanging on that long when others said it'd be a romp!

What does everyone think will happen tonight when they announce the BCS games? I am still stunned that USC blew such a winnable game. Florida looked awful at times but then looked good at others against Arkansas. Urban Meyer made some ridiculously bad decisions at times yesterday, not the least of which was spending his last timeout with over three minutes to go in the 3rd quarter. He's so lucky Arkansas fumbled that punt.

I think the BCS has a tough decision to make because both Michigan & Florida have compelling arguments. I think it will go to Michigan based on the points formula of the BCS since Florida was #4 going into this weekend. However, I think it should be Florida because 1) they won their conference and Michigan did not, 2) Florida won more games against better quality opponents than Michigan (wins against #13 Tennessee, #9 LSU, #8 Arkansas and a loss against #11 Auburn).

A mediocre yr of football. Ohio St is obviously the best team so far and this yrs squad could not hold a candle to last yrs team which had 5 first round draft picks along w/ Ginn and Smith.

The only good thing that will come about this year is that we are one step closer to a playoff thanks to the newest BCS bs.

I'm not understanding your logic. This year's OSU team is not as good as last year's based on first round draft picks? Bobby Carpenter was a reach for a 1st rounder. The defense lost 9 of its 11 starters yet won 2 more games to go undefeated in the regular season. If that's not improvement, I don't know what is.

John Cooper had far more talent in 1993 & 1998 and didn't even win the Big 10 in those years. That's why he was hated by many OSU fans and alumni. Lloyd Carr is getting the same reputatoin as Cooper. Tressel has done an amazing job.

If the coaches polls are an indicator, then it's looking like Florida will be going to Glendale.

OSU 38, UF 10, it'll hardly be close.

Goombah I don't how you can say this yr's team who lost their entire defense is par with last yr's.

Unless you think Smith and Ginn have improved a great deal then it's illogical. But even then it's illogical b/c last yrs O had Santonio Holmes and Nick Mangold(also first rounders)to go with Smith, Ginn, and Pittman. If this yr's team had to play Vince Young they would lose too(last yrs squad would have beaten him if Tressel had not benched Smith).

Sounds good to me. Like I said, a mediocre yr of football.

Keep dreaming that'll never happen. For one thing university presidents don't want a playoff system. So we're stuck with the current bs, And the endless years of treaking the current system.

You're talking about one side of the ball, I'm talking about the entire team. This year's team at OSU is better overall. The defense last year was very good and better than this year's unit. That said, if they were so great last year, they should have beaten Texas & Penn State. And if Smith hadn't gotten into trouble and was not serving a suspension, he would have played the entire game vs. Texas. The outcome could have easily been different.

This year's offense, with Ginn, Smith, Gonzalez, and Pittman is much better than last year. Last year, they struggled at various points to put up points. This year, they have scored at will many times.

I don't why you have such a hard time admitting this. This team is great but WOULD NOT beat Vince Young, and MIGHT lose to last yr's Penn State team if it were in Happy Valley. I know you want to think that since this team is a national champion that it compares to the teams of a yr ago, but it's just not true. They don't compare to last yr's Texas team, they don't compare to last yr's Ohio St team, and they don't compare to last yr's USC team.

Have you talked to any other Buckeye fans about this? Do they agree with you? Last yr's team (WITH JUSTIN ZWICK AT QB!!) almost beat Vince Young and national champion Texas!!

Tressel is probably about to get his second ring and he deserves it b/c last yr's team should have won it all(if last yr's team won it all you can bet Troy Smith would be in the pros this yr).

I don't think it will ever work.

However, how f*in sweet would this be!!

1.OSU
8.Boise St.

2.Florida
7.Wisconsin

3.Michigan
6.Louisville

4.LSU
5.USC

OMFG!! WE NEED A PLAFOFF

Never did I say that this year's OSU team is better than Texas, USC, prior national champions, or other teams from last year. Never did I say that the 2006 Ohio State team could or could not beat Vince Young. I compared the 2006 Ohio State team to the 2005 Ohio State team. What I actually said was that if Troy Smith had played the entire 2005 game vs. Texas, the result might have very well been different.

You are either making shit up or can't comprehend what was written.

Ok bud, whatever, take it easy. Its just illogical to say that this yr's OSU team is better than last yrs who had the EXACT offense(in addition to Holmes and Mangold) and one of the best D's the last 10-15 yrs.

So you think the offense(despite losing Mangold and Holmes) is actually so much improved this season that they can make up for the loss of that defense? I'm not saying you can't argue that of course, (maybe this years D will turn out to be an incredible unit) but I have not heard this possibility argued by anyone. And wouldn't the 06' D have to be almost as good as 05's D in order compare to 05's team?

You know that this yr's team could not beat Vince, yet your boys last yr almost did just that. I'm lost w/ you there Goomby. If that 05 OSU team is almost as good or better than Vince then they are really, really f*in good(they should have won but Tressel has to be a typical old fu*ck who is going soft in the brain and benches Smith for visiting a booster). That 05 Texas team is a pretty good measure of 'goodness' to measure with I would say.

You are implying that this OSU offense has matured or galvinized some way, or really came to togethor more as a team, or playing w/ more heart, whatever it is.....but they did NOT play a schedule comparible to last yrs.

OSU will be spanked by the Gators. SPANKED!!!!