Thank you Plaw. It wasn't straight up, but it may as well have been. The trade was Crumpler and Jeff Reed for Cadillac and David Givens. Considering I already have Ben Watson, who will be a top 3 tight end by the end of this season, even if I was a moron who didn't realize how worthless kickers are, why in the hell would I want Crumpler? Maybe if I was so desperate I had already cut off 5 fingers and 3 toes, I would've considered it. I guess you can't blame the guy for trying though. I have seen much stupider things happen in life, so it was worth a shot.