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NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272887
03/04/06 03:13 PM
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Men's Tournament Challenge

http://games.espn.go.com/tcmen/frontpage

Women's Tournament Challenge

http://games.espn.go.com/tcwomen/frontpage

Group: Gangster BB
Passw: Corleone

"Predict the winner of each matchup in this year's tournament and you could win the cash prizes!"

You can create up to 5 brackets, but only one counts for BB entry for each game -- please mark your BB entries with an asterisk (*) or numeral one (1)

Locktime: Morning of 3/16 for Men's, 3/18 for Women's

Last edited by Don Sicilia; 11/15/07 11:26 AM.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272888
03/06/06 09:59 AM
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I'm in.

Where are your other four entries, JG? Hiding from us?


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272889
03/10/06 09:12 PM
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My alma mater is going to the big dance - IONA!....and my daughter's alma mater could win it all - 'NOVA...hey almost the same letters. I'll be in.


Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272890
03/13/06 10:43 AM
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In.

Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272891
03/13/06 03:34 PM
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I've added the link for the Women's Challenge in the initial post...



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272892
03/14/06 05:03 AM
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I've just joined both games. I created 5 games for each, but the one I want counted for the BB one is marked.


Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272894
03/15/06 10:18 AM
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Im callin it right here right now... UAlbany upsets UConn in the first round.


Just kidding


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272895
03/15/06 12:47 PM
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We're in!

"yotonyb1" is the entry that counts.

tony b.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272896
03/16/06 05:17 AM
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For the sake of simplicity in figuring out and posting the daily scores and mathematically possible outcomes every day as the tourney progessess, it would be appreciated if everyone removed their four entries that don't count from the group.

This can be done by clicking on "Group Info" on our home page (the one that lists all the entries), and the then "Leave Your Group".

You can use the little drop-down box in the left-hand corner of the page to remove the entries that you want to.

When you sign back in, you will see that your entries still exist (so you can still win a prize), but they are no longer members of the Gangster BB group.

Thank you.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272897
03/16/06 03:54 PM
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Wis-Milwaukee over Oklahoma


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272898
03/17/06 04:26 AM
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First Half of First Round
Code:
JB  140   (Jimmy Buffer)
TB  130   (YoTonyB) 
RB  130   (raggingBull2003)
IM  120   (The Ice Man)
PL  120   (plawrence)
DB  110   (Don Sicilia)
JG  110   (JGeoff)
JL  110   (Just Lou)
TL  100   (Tony Love)
PG  100   (Partagas)
MC  100   (MaryCas)


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272899
03/17/06 04:41 AM
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It's just bad LUCK that I'm not winning, of course... :p



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272900
03/17/06 05:52 AM
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Actually, I consider this game to have a significant skill factor.

Since there are no point spreads involved, the winner is usually the person who can correctly pick the greatest number of upsets, which generally involves a knowledge of the game as opposed to simply luck.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272902
03/17/06 09:45 AM
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Tony's two axioms of the NCAA Tunamint...

1) The cream always rises to the top.
2) It's Midnight for Cinderella by the second weekend.

16's are winless.

15's are 4-80 in the first round and 0-4 in the second round since 1985.

14's are 14-70 in the first round, 2-12 in the second round and 0-2 in the third round.

13's are 17-67 in the first round, 3-14 in the second round and 0-3 in the third round.

12's are 27-57 in the first round, 14-13 in the second round, 1-13 in the third round and 0-1 in the Regional Finals.

11's are 25-59 in the first round, 10-15 in the second round, 3-7 in the third round and 1-2 in the Regional Finals. Only LSU's 1985 team reached the Final Four as an 11th seed having beaten the #3, #2 AND #1 seeds IN ORDER in the tunamint that year.

10's are 33-51 in the first round, 17-16 in the second round, 6-11 in the third round and 0-6 in the Regional Finals.

Only 11 teams lower than a 4th seed have reached the Final Four since the inception of the 64-team format in 1985.

Kansas as the sixth seed in 1988 and Villanova as the eighth seed in 1985...and I'll stop right there...

It would be nice to be rewarded a little better for correctly picking the early round upsets. But statistically, the top axiom prevails -- The cream always rises to the top.

tony b.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272903
03/17/06 09:55 AM
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I've seen some of these bracket games that give you extra points for successfully predicting a first round upset, like 10 extra if you pick a 16 over a 1, 9 extra for picking a 15 or a 2, etc.

But not this game.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272904
03/17/06 10:48 AM
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First Half of First Round
Code:
JB  140   (Jimmy Buffer)
TB  130   (YoTonyB) 
RB  130   (raggingBull2003)
IM  120   (The Ice Man)
PL  120   (plawrence)
DB  110   (Don Sicilia)
JG  110   (JGeoff)
JL  110   (Just Lou)
TL  100   (Tony Love)
PG  100   (Partagas)
MC  100   (MaryCas)
Hurt the most yesterday were MC and (Syracuse & Marquette) and PG (Syracuse & Oklahoma), who lost two teams that they had winning their next round games, and JB, JG, JL, and TL who all lost one (Syracuse).


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272905
03/17/06 11:09 AM
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It's the most wonderful time of the year...and I feel like telling a story...

I'll be parked in front of a television or two starting around noon and won't move except for meals and bathroom breaks until Sunday evening.

In addition to the NCAA tourney, Illinois' Class AA (larger enrollments) high school basketball tournament concludes this weekend in Peoria. Brackets were changed this year and two Chicago Public League schools (Simeon and Marshall) are among the elite eight with all games televised. The marquee match-up tonight has Duke recruit Jon Scheyer from Glenbrook North facing Simeon's junior tandem of Derrick Rose and Tim Flowers. Marshall has a kid named Patrick Beverley that's had an exceptional senior season.

Simeon has a been a power over the past 20 years with it's most noted alum being former Illinois and NBA star Nick Anderson. Anderson wasn't even it's best player. Simeon was also the high school of Ben Wilson, one of the country's top players going into the 1984-85 season, his senior year. He never played a game that season. He was shot and killed the week before Thanksgiving.

He wore #25.

Illinois had a virtual pipeline to Simeon from the mid-'80's through today. For the longest time, all the Simeon players at Illinois starting with Nick Anderson wore #25 in memory of Ben Wilson. Deon Thomas, Bryant Notree, Kevin Turner, and currently Calvin Brock are #25 on the roster. I saw Wilson play his sophomore and junior years and got a closer look during the state tournament while I was living Downstate. Nobody knows for certain where Wison would have played college ball, but every year around this time, particularly when I see Simeon making another run at a state title, I'm sorry that Wilson never got a chance to play college ball, or, more importantly, never got a chance to simply live the rest of his life however he wanted.

Wilson was with his girlfriend when he was shot. She was pregnant...with his child. His name is Brandon Wilson and he played a little college ball at Maryland-Eastern Shore.

He wore #25.

tony b.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272906
03/17/06 01:14 PM
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A sad story.

Was it a random shooting or was there a motive or what?

Was the killer ever found?


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272908
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Fixed

Seton Hall is my "home team", as they play most of their games in the Meadowlands Being from NY/NJ, so I naturally follow the Big East pretty closely.

I figured after four games in four days and the emotional letdown that had to follow, not to mention a road trip, there was no way 'Cuse was gonna get another win.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272909
03/17/06 02:25 PM
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Seton Hall...coaches with beards aren't a good bet to make it to the Final Four. Only one has done it since 1985.

Plaw...Ben Wilson was shot just a block or two from the high school when two kids (ages 15 and 16) tried to rob him on the street. They were caught, tried as adults, and received sentences on the order of 40 years. I believe they are both still attending one of our fine "charm schools" in Illinois. One shot hit Wilson in the leg severing the femoral artery. He bled profusely and had virtually no chance for survival from that particular wound.

tony b.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272910
03/17/06 02:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by YoTonyB:
Seton Hall...coaches with beards aren't a good bet to make it to the Final Four. Only one has done it since 1985.
PJ Carlesimo had a beard

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:yZ...o0906_69392.jpg[/img]

But current coach Louis Orr doesn't

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:0P...oto/a_orr_i.jpg[/img]


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272911
03/17/06 05:10 PM
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P.J. was the guy! I can't think of any other head coach that reached the Final Four with a beard since 1985, can you?

Louis Orr -- thumbs up or thumbs down? I think it was either Seth Davis or Grant Wahl on si.com that had a very favorable column on-line about Orr and his efforts at Seton Hall.

tony b.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272912
03/18/06 08:02 AM
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End Of First Round

PTS -- Your score now
PPR -- Possible points remaining
HTPS -- Highest total possible score
Why -- What happened to you
Code:
     
     PTS   PPR  HTPS   WHY
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RB   260  1360  1620   Lost no teams of significance
JB   240  1140  1380   Lost Iowa and Kansas 
DB   230  1340  1570   Lost no teams of significance
PL   230  1300  1530   Lost Iowa
JL   220  1300  1520   Lost Iowa
TB   220  1260  1480   Lost Kansas and Michigan State
IM   220  1200  1420   Lost Iowa and Kansas
MC   210  1260  1470   Lost Iowa and Marquette
TL   210   840  1050   Lost Syracuse, Iowa, Kansas, and Oklahoma
JG   190  1300  1490   Lost Syracuse and Southern Illinois
PG   190  1240  1430   Lost Syracuse, South Ill, Kansas, and Oklahoma


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272913
03/19/06 08:58 AM
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Halfway Through Second Round
Code:
       PTS    PPR   HTPS     Who he Has In The Finals
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RB     380   1200   1580     UConn over Duke
DB     380   1180   1560     UConn over Duke
TL     350    700   1050     Iowa (eliminated) over Ohio State
TB     340   1060   1400     Duke over Ohio State
IM     340   1040   1380     UConn over Duke
JB     340   1000   1340     UConn over Duke
PL     330   1020   1350     Memphis over Villanova
JL     320   1160   1480     UConn over Duke
JG     310   1160   1470     Duke over Florida
MC     290   1140   1430     Duke over UConn
PG     270   1120   1390     Duke over UConn
I didn't do the math here or work out any of the certainly thousands of different scenarios, so I'm just guessing here.

But I'm gonna say that....

If UConn beats Duke in the finals, the only two who can beat RB are DB, and maybe JL, depending on how other games turn out.

Anyone else who doesn't have UConn over Duke in the finals and nails all of the Final Four teams and gets the results right will proabaly win the whole thing, with the exception of MC and PG, who, if Duke beats UConn in the finals, will probably have their result determined by what happens in the other games.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272914
03/19/06 09:31 PM
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Man in the contest I'm in at work I took a major, major hit I had North Carolina winning it all, & of course as we all know they got upset.

So I must say I'm doing better in this contest than I thought.


Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272915
03/20/06 02:58 AM
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Brutal weekend for my brackets...but it was a GREAT weekend of college basketball in general. Plus we had Class AA state high school finals this weekend as well with an overtime win on a last second shot for state champ Simeon High School from the Chicago Public League.

And, sad to say, former DePaul coach Ray Meyer passed away. He coached his teams to two Final Fours including the one that might have been the best ever in 1979.

tony b.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272916
03/20/06 02:13 PM
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Second Round Complete
Code:
       
       PTS    PPR   HTPS     Who he Has In The Finals
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RB     480   1000   1480     UConn over Duke
DB     470   1000   1470     UConn over Duke
TL     430    360    790     Iowa (out) over Ohio State (out)
IM     420    880   1300     UConn over Duke
JB     420    720   1140     UConn over Duke
TB     420    720   1140     Duke over Ohio State (out)
PL     410    800   1210     Memphis over Villanova
JL     400    960   1360     UConn over Duke
JG     390    920   1310     Duke over Florida
MC     390    840   1230     Duke over UConn
PG     350    840   1190     Duke over UConn
I still didn't do the math here or work out any of the certainly thousands of different scenarios, so I'm just guessing here.

But I'm still gonna say that....

If UConn beats Duke in the finals, the only one who can beat RB is DB, depending on how other games turn out.

I doubt if anyone else who has UConn over Duke has enough different picks to make up the points that they're already behind.

Anyone else who doesn't have UConn over Duke in the finals and nails all of the Final Four teams and gets the results right will probably win the whole thing, with the exception of MC and PG, who, if Duke beats UConn in the finals, will probably have their result determined by what happens in the other games.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272917
03/20/06 04:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by YoTonyB:
Brutal weekend for my brackets...but it was a GREAT weekend of college basketball in general. Plus we had Class AA state high school finals this weekend as well with an overtime win on a last second shot for state champ Simeon High School from the Chicago Public League.
YTB, do you know how Schaumburg (my former alma mater) finished? For some reason, after I graduated, Schaumburg became a basketball powerhouse. That's their second trip downstate since 2001. In 2001, they beat Eddy Curry (former Bull and now a NY Knick) and his team to win the championship.

Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272918
03/21/06 02:47 AM
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Schaumburg lost to Thornwood 40-35 in the quarterfinals on Friday afternoon. I know that Schaumburg had a couple of the Pancratz boys go through the program these last few years. Their dad, Andy Pancratz, was a starter at DePaul in the 1970's and he was a pretty good ballplayer.

tony b.


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Re: NCAA Tournament Challenges (2 GAMES) #272919
03/23/06 11:38 PM
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Duke is out ....that's a biggie.


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