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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266360
04/22/06 10:21 AM
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Is that what the teams play? An 84 game regular season?If that's the case, and we want a "reality based" game, then I would have a roster with the same number of players that an NHL team has; What is it, 20?
In real life a team carries 25 players on it's roster during the regular season and dresses 18 + 2 goalies a game for a total of 20, with the remaining 5 being "scratched" from the lineup for that game.

Quote:
I would make the starting lineup every day consist of 3 centers, 3 left wings, 3 right wings, 6 defensemen, and one goalie, just like teams do in real life.
In real life many teams will play four lines and sometimes rotate 5 to 6 defensmen. So if you really want to mirror a real life starting line-up, than a starting lineup would consist of 12 starting Forwards, 6 starting Defenseman and a Goalie for a total of 19 starting players. Personally I think that we should allow 2 starting goalies because on many a night, it is not uncommon for NHL teams to decide to sit who they originally anounced as their starting goalie and play their backup at game time. So for that reason alone I think that we should start TWO (2) starting Goalies.

Roster should look like this :


C
C
C
C
LW
LW
LW
LW
RW
RW
RW
RW
D
D
D
D
D
D
G
G
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Teams would carry a total of 25 players and start 20

I think that this would be the perfect setup to use.


We have the whole summer to go before entertaining the style of play that we want for hockey. So let's get through baseball season because right now I am spending enough time managing my two Yahoo Fantasy BB teams, my Salary Cap BB team, oh, and that stupida focking best ball golf game!


EDIT: ***Note to Don Malta*** : next year you WILL play in the Fantasy Hockey League. It's the least that you can do to make up for talking me into playing this stupida focking golf game!


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266361
04/22/06 02:47 PM
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Whatever....If you want to have a starting lineup with four lines, then I would make the max games played 336 for each position, etc.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266362
04/22/06 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
***Note to Don Malta*** : next year you WILL play in the Fantasy Hockey League.
We'll see about that... :p



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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266363
04/23/06 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[b]***Note to Don Malta*** : next year you WILL play in the Fantasy Hockey League.
We'll see about that... :p [/b][/quote]It's an offer you CAN'T refuse!

:p


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266364
04/23/06 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
Whatever....If you want to have a starting lineup with four lines, then I would make the max games played 336 for each position, etc.
Ohhhh, the NHL playoffs have just begun, the new fantasy Hockey season don't start for another 6 months, and you're already whining and complaining! :p


It goes without saying that whatever number of starters positionwise that we decide on, we will times that by 84 games.

3 starting centers would put max games played for center position at 252.

4 starting centers would put max games played for center position at 336.


And you call Beth crabby?


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266365
04/23/06 07:31 PM
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Where did you see or hear whining and complaining?

I'm just trying to help, since "It goes without saying" is never an operable phrase in a game with you as Commissioner. :p


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266367
04/23/06 09:32 PM
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How much time do you spend every day/week/month on your hobbies or on doing whatever it is you do for fun?

That chart, BTW, took about 10 minutes to make....just look at the schedules for four teams and note their open dates.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266369
04/24/06 03:30 AM
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Well, there ya go, then.

I gave up my stamp collection, coin collection, butterfly collection, bottle cap collection, postcard collection, matchbook cover collection, and Chinese restaurant takeout menu collection, to concentrate on one hobby only:

Fantasy Sports.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266370
04/24/06 07:10 AM
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I will never ever give up my sports card & memorabilia collection, my stamp collection, my coin collection and any other collections I may have. Yeah, I'm a nerd, totally, a 23-year-old, Brown, 177lb., 6ft., nerd! You vaaant too fiiigght aboout eet?!lol! Whatever, I like keeping stuff that shouldn't (in my opinion) be thrown away. Always have always will. Was always into sports since a very young age, however am now starting to learn the Fantasy Sport ropes and am starting to slowly but surely enjoy the competitiveness, comaradery, friendships, skill, challenge, luck and chance involved. BASEBALL first, then Soccer, then Hockey, then Basketball and then maybe NFL Football.

Fun games, fun times and it's not even May!



Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266372
04/24/06 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
Where did you see or hear whining and complaining?

I'm just trying to help, since "It goes without saying" is never an operable phrase in a game with you as Commissioner.
In almost every other post in almost every other fantasy thread, all the sniffling and the tears have made those topics soaking wet! :p

Yes, you are right. With someone like me, who acted as a commissioner for the first or second time, I did need some suggestions to make things better. But I could do without the whining and critisim as Fantasy Sports are NOT my hobby, and on my part are done purely for entertainment.

Plaw, I give you my word that I will try to make running a fantasy league a top priority in my life and put it ahead of my having to run a real life business, coaching a softball team, driving my son back and forth to Golf lessons, my daughter to Piano lessons, Dance School, Dance competitions, my son to Golf tournaments, coaching a semi pro football team, and whatever else I need to do for my family.

Yes, you're right. My being a commissioner to try and have fun playing a fantasy sports game should be taken more seriously and I should devote a lot more time to being commissioner than the time I now devote to my family.

What was I thinking?

:p


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266373
04/25/06 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by Don Cardi:
In almost every other post in almost every other fantasy thread, all the sniffling and the tears have made those topics soaking wet! :p
Sheesh....

You crack a joke around here and get a sermon about family values. :p

Seriously, though....

Here's the difference, IMO, between what you call "whining" and "complaining" and what I consider "commenting" or "suggesting":

When JG makes a post like this:

Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff (Yahoo Baseball thread, 4/14):
Sorry, but I'm starting to have a problem with our scoring...

Zambrano, for instance...

6 IP 18 outs 4 hits 4 ERs 3 BBs 1 HBP 8 Ks

...not a terrible outting these days, by any means. In fact, a NORMAL outting these days! But he gets the loss, cuz his offense didn't get the job done, not cuz he didn't! He gave STL every opportunity, having only given up 4 ERs... but he's penalized (as I am) cuz the OFFENSE didn't produce.

[b]1
point.

8 Ks, 3 BBs... 18 outs, 4 ERs. 1 fucking point.

Sorry, but I'm not liking that too much.

Timlin pitched ONE inning, got the 3 outs with one hit. He got 2 points. No save, no hold. That was it. One decent inning. But, TWICE as many points as a decent start. ????

C'mon now...! [/b]
He's complaining about something after the fact, and his complaint is being made strictly because of his personal self-interest.

He's unhappy with something in the scoring system because of the way if affected him.

If the situation that he was complaining about would have happened to someone else - and, in fact, it already had happened to others during the season - then he wouldn't have said anything.

I, on the other hand, rarely complain about anything after the fact.

When I comment or suggest, it's usually before the results of what I'm commenting about are known because I've given thought to the matter and imagined the various scenarios and reprecussions involved.

Before I know how or if it will affect me personally.

You had it exactly right when JL complained about how he couldn't replace the two guys for the playoffs.

What made his comment a "whine" was, as you correctly pointed out, the fact that he had the opportunity to complain about it before the results of what we decided with respect to the playoffs and replacing players - which directly and adversely affected him - were known, but he didn't.

Now, don't get me wrong here.

"Whining" is absolutely part of the fun of the game, and we all get a good laugh when people start whining.

That's why we started with "whine alerts", and bracketing whines with fake UBB Codes like this [whine][/whine].

But I personally do not do much whining, and you are confusing whining and complaining with my comments and suggestions which are designed to offer an opinion on how the game can be changed to mahe it better, not changed to serve my own personal self-interest.


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