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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/03/05 01:45 PM
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Lemme put the standings in the code format for you, for readability. Team Name W-L-T Pct Pts Player Name
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1 fiveforfighting 25-10-5 .688 55 Just Lou
2 DMC 22-11-7 .638 51 DMC
3 Staten Isle Rockets 16-16-8 .500 40 Don Pelosi
4 The Broadway Blues 17-18-5 .488 39 Don Cardi
5 Plaw's Left Wingers 16-20-4 .450 36 Plaw
6 The Ice picks 15-20-5 .438 35 TheIceMan
7 Reg Dunlop 13-19-8 .425 34 Maple Leafs
8 Buffalo Chill 12-22-6 .375 30 Double J I could be dangerous if a) I knew anything at all about hockey besides the names of maybe 10-15 players, and b) I started paying attention to my lineup every day.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/07/05 10:53 AM
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Here are the standings as of Monday Nov. 7th 2005
Team W L T WPct PTS Last Week
fiveforfighting 30-15-5 .650 65 5-5-0
DMC 24-18-8 .560 56 2-7-1
The Broadway Blues 23-21-6 .520 52 6-3-1
Plaw's Left Wingers 23-22-5 .510 51 7-2-1
The Ice picks 22-22-6 .500 50 7-2-1
Staten Isle Rockets 21-21-8 .500 50 5-5-0
Reg Dunlop 16-25-9 .410 41 3-6-1
Buffalo Chill 14-29-7 .350 35 2-7-1 Just Lou (Five For Fighting) and DMC hold on to first and second place respectively. The Broadway Blues (Don Cardi) Knock the Staten Island Rockets (Don Pelosi) out of third place. Plaw's Left Wingers and The Ice Picks (The Iceman) both move up a notch in the standings. And the Reg Dunlops (Maple Leafs) and Buffalo Chill (Double J) continue their fight for possession of the cellar. Don Cardi 
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/12/05 10:46 AM
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We have no "maximum number of games played for each position," right?
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/12/05 10:51 AM
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The goalie thing is a minimum, isn't it? :p
Besides that.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/14/05 04:57 PM
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STANDINGS AS OF MONDAY NOVEMBER 14th 2005 Regular Season Standings
Rank Team W-L-T WPct PTS
1 fiveforfighting 36-17-7 .658 79
2 The Broadway Blues 30-23-7 .558 67
3 Plaw's Left Wingers 29-25-6 .533 64
4 Staten Isle Rockets 26-25-9 .508 61
5 DMC 26-25-9 .508 61
6 The Ice picks 25-28-7 .475 57
7 Reg Dunlop 18-31-11 .392 47
8 Buffalo Chill 18-34-8 .367 44
Just Lou's Five For Fighting moved into sole possession of first place! Don Cardi's Broadway Blues and Plaws Left Wingers continue their climb in the standings and take second and third place respectively. DMC's team continues their decline in the standings falling back into a tie for 4th place with The Staten Island Rockets, after DMC got spanked by Cardi's Broadway Blues. The Iceman's Ice Picks went from 5th place to 6th place. Reg Dunlops ( Maple Leafs ) and Buffalo Chill ( JJ ) continue their battle for last place with Buffalo Chill closing in point wise on Reg Dunlop. Don Cardi
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/15/05 02:15 PM
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All I can say is it's a good thing for you guys that I know virtually nothing about hockey, and I go back a ways.
I remember when there were only six teams, and I could name all the players on the top three lines on every team.
I was always a stats nut, and when I was a kid I made up a solitaire "Table Top" hockey game played with dice.
First you would roll the dice for each team to determine the final score.
Then, after determining how many goals each team scored, you rolled the dice again to see which line scored each goal, or if the goal was scored by a defenseman.
Then you rolled again to see which player on the line scored the goal.
Then you rolled again to see if the goal was unassisted, or if there were one or two assists on the goal.
Then after determining the number of assists, you rolled a final time to see if the assists were by the goal scorers linemates, or by a defenseman.
All of the rolls were more or less weighted, based on what I figured the probabilities to be.
For example (amazing how I remember this), I set it up so that 40% of a team's goals were scored by someone on their top line, 30% by someone on their second line, 20% by someone on their third line, and 10% by a defenseman.
And 20% of all goals were unassisted, 30% got one assist, and 50% got two assists (made for higher individual scoring totals).
I'd play out a whole season and the playoffs - it took maybe 10-12 hours - the purpose of which was to have a complete set of season stats when I was all done.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/15/05 02:53 PM
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I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/15/05 03:03 PM
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Yup.
I did the same thing for baseball, too.
Roll two dice, 36 possible outcomes.
Four of them walks, 8 hits, so you got a league batting average of about .250 (remember, this was the early to mid sixties, a pitcher's era), one home run, etc.
I played out a whole NL season a few times, which took a while with ten teams -- 810 games to play, about half an hour per game after recording the stats.
So about 405 hours to play out the season, 2-3 hours a day, took about as long as the real season.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/21/05 12:15 PM
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STANDINGS AS OF MONDAY NOVEMBER 21th 2005 Regular Season Standings
Rank Team W-L-T WPct PTS
1 fiveforfighting 39-22-9 .621 87
2 The Broadway Blues 37-25-8 .586 82
3 Staten Isl Rockets 34-26-10 .557 78
4 DMC 31-28-11 .521 73
5 Plaws Left Wingers 31-32-7 .493 69
6 The Ice picks 26-36-8 .429 60
7 Reg Dunlop 23-35-12 .414 58
8 Buffalo Chill 22-39-9 .379 53 Just Lou - Five For Fighting Don Cardi- The Braodway Blues Don Pelosi - Staten Isles Rockets DonMichealCorleone - DMC Plaw - Plaws Left Winger TheIceMan - The Ice Picks Maple Leafs - Reg Dunlops Double J - Buffalo Chill DJ, I made you a trade offer, but you haven't replied! Don Cardi
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/25/05 10:57 AM
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What's the purpose of the "can't cut" list?
I imagine it's to prevent collusion between someone who's out of the running from placing a really good player on waivers, so his friend, who may be #1 in waiver priority, can pick him up.
But if two people want to do that anyway they can, simply by making a trade. The manager acquiring the so-called "good player" would have to drop someone, so he can just trade him instead.
Since the commissioner can overturn trades in which collusion is suspected, what's the point of a "can't cut" list, then?
If you wanted to have a can't cut list that goes into effect after the trading dealine, that would make sense, because anyone wanting to cut a good player would have to make their decision prior to the deadline or be stuck with the guy the rest of the way, but I don't see why we need this list so early in the season.
It's too early for anyone to consider themselves "out of it", so there'd be no reason for anybody to collude.
I ask because there's someone I may want to get rid of that I can't.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/26/05 09:14 AM
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The site itself implements a can't cut list rule. And as the commisioner I cannot even turn that option on or off, as the site does not give me the power to do so. As you said, I guess it is implemented to prevent collusion. I guess that the league feels that even a commissioner may pre-arrange a deal with another player, so the site has this no cut list that not even the commissioner can control. NFL.com does the same thing also. Don Cardi
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/26/05 09:23 AM
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Are you sure?
I'm commissionering our Yahoo basketball game, and in "Commissioner's Tools" they give you the option for "Can't Cut List" to be either "none" or provided by Yahoo Sports.
I chose "none" for our league, but it appears as if I still have the option to change it.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/26/05 09:41 AM
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You were correct Plaw. Yahoo, unlike NFL.com does provide that option to their commissioners. I changed it to none as I agree, it's just ridiculous that you cannot cut certain players. I am in another Yahoo FHL and I have a goalie who was rated as a top pick in the draft. He's basically been sent to the bench in favor of some hot rookie goalie, and I cannot cut this guy! Ridiculous. Again, I had assumed that the CCL option was not given to me as over in my FFL the commish is NOT given that option. But now I changed it for our league. I have never played in a Yahoo Fantasy League before, so I was not familiar with the options of the commissioner. Thanks for pointing that out. Don Cardi
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/26/05 09:47 AM
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In a custom league, the commissioner should be allowed to do anything they want to and set up their league any way they wish.
Another thing that bugs me - which, after corresponding with Yahoo, I found out cannot be changed - is that when you add a free agent, he should be able to go on your roster immediately. There's really no reason why you should have to wait until the next day to use him, unless there's something I'm not thinking of.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/26/05 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
Another thing that bugs me - which, after corresponding with Yahoo, I found out cannot be changed - is that when you add a free agent, he should be able to go on your roster immediately. There's really no reason why you should have to wait until the next day to use him, unless there's something I'm not thinking of. Well that rule makes sense. think about it. If they allowed you an immediate pick up, then an owner could stack his roster every game. Example: Suppose it's a Tuesday and one of your player's team is not playing their NHL game that night. If you were allowed to immediately add a free agent to your roster, you could find a comparable player who's NHL team IS playing that night, and add him to your roster for the game that night. Then on Wednesday, you do it again. Etc. etc. If the free agent was added immediately to your roster when you picked him up on the same day, in theory an owner can manilulate his lineup to having his players play almost every night. That rule, in my opinion, does make sense. Don Cardi
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/26/05 10:01 AM
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Well, you can still do that to a certain extent by planning one day in advance.
And also, you'd have to drop a player and risk losing him permanently if you wanted to do that.
In a league which has a maximum number of games limit, you would never want to do that because theoretically you would want to use your games with your best players.
In our basketball game, for example, we have two guys at each position with a maximum number of games of 82 at each position, for a total of 164.
My two shooting guards are Vince Carter and Dwane Wade, and I want them each to play as many games as possible, since no one on my bench is as good as either one of them, and there are obviously no free agents I could get who are as good as either one.
Even if there were no max # of games at each position, if I cut one of them to add a lesser guy who was playing on a night wwhen one of them was off, someone else would pick them up and I'd lose them forever.
In our hockey league, since there's no max # of games at each position it could be a danger, but you would only want to do it with your most marginal players - those, as you say, who could be replaced with guys of equal value.
But, theoretically, if we have a league with 8 teams and 16 players on each team, aren't the best 128 players already taken?
Even if I drop my worst player on a night off to pick up someone else who is playing, I get the benefit for that one night but, again theoretically, I'm now stuck with a guy of lesser quality than the one I cut.
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League
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11/26/05 10:41 AM
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I guess there's a difference between a league with a maximum # of games at each position and one with no maximum.
As far as JG and DB go......
I hope you're not implying that they said I cry and whine a lot?
JG, being major whiner himself, might, but DB would never say such a thing.
And besides, I never (well, hardly ever, and certainly not with good reason) cry and whine.
If you're implying that they said that I nitpick, well, yeah, I'll sort of plead guilty to that, except I view it more as trying to take an intelligent approach to the game, questioning what doesn't make sense, and offering opinions and solutions based on logic.
And besides, if I'm not gonna argue with you about the ACLU, rape, the death penalty, the war in Iraq, terrorism, sex education (Am I forgetting anything?), politics, or the Patriot Act (I think that covers just about everything), then what's left but fantasy sports? :p
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