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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266030
11/03/05 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Iceman:
I have a question for the more knowledgable fantasy hockey league players here. Ok here it goes like I stated earlier in this thread this is my first time of playing fantasy hockey. And the way this league is set up Just what all is determined in a players record for the entire week?
Iceman, if you go into the leauge site and click on league settings, there should be a list of what stats are used to determiine scoring for a player. If you have a hard time finding it, let me know.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266031
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Lemme put the standings in the code format for you, for readability.
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   Team Name              W-L-T    Pct  Pts  Player Name
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1  fiveforfighting       25-10-5  .688   55   Just Lou
2  DMC                   22-11-7  .638   51   DMC
3  Staten Isle Rockets   16-16-8  .500   40   Don Pelosi
4  The Broadway Blues    17-18-5  .488   39   Don Cardi
5  Plaw's Left Wingers   16-20-4  .450   36   Plaw
6  The Ice picks         15-20-5  .438   35   TheIceMan 
7  Reg Dunlop            13-19-8  .425   34   Maple Leafs
8  Buffalo Chill         12-22-6  .375   30   Double J 
I could be dangerous if

a) I knew anything at all about hockey besides the names of maybe 10-15 players, and
b) I started paying attention to my lineup every day.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266032
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So I trade for a better goalie who gets hurt the day after, and I don't start Alfredson on a monster night against my Sabres backups (who might as well have been an empty net).

I hate fantasy hockey :p



Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266033
11/04/05 12:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Double-J:
So I trade for a better goalie who gets hurt the day after, and I don't start Alfredson on a monster night against my Sabres backups (who might as well have been an empty net).

I hate fantasy hockey :p
Sorry about that. Really, I don't have a crystal ball to see these things coming.

Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266034
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It's just funny - I didn't preset my rosters, I was winning.

I preset my rosters, trade for (what I thought) a better goalie, he gets hurt, and I keep losing.

I'm going back to not setting my rosters, it worked before :p



Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266035
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Here are the standings as of Monday Nov. 7th 2005

Code:
   
Team                     W  L  T WPct   PTS     Last Week 

fiveforfighting          30-15-5 .650    65        5-5-0 
DMC                      24-18-8 .560    56        2-7-1
The Broadway Blues       23-21-6 .520    52        6-3-1
Plaw's Left Wingers      23-22-5 .510    51        7-2-1
The Ice picks            22-22-6 .500    50        7-2-1 
Staten Isle Rockets      21-21-8 .500    50        5-5-0
Reg Dunlop               16-25-9 .410    41        3-6-1 
Buffalo Chill            14-29-7 .350    35        2-7-1 
Just Lou (Five For Fighting) and DMC hold on to first and second place respectively.

The Broadway Blues (Don Cardi) Knock the Staten Island Rockets (Don Pelosi) out of third place.


Plaw's Left Wingers and The Ice Picks (The Iceman) both move up a notch in the standings.

And the Reg Dunlops (Maple Leafs) and Buffalo Chill (Double J) continue their fight for possession of the cellar.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266036
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We have no "maximum number of games played for each position," right?


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266037
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Quote:
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We have no "maximum number of games played for each position," right?
No, the only maximums are the 2 appearances for goalies.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266038
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The goalie thing is a minimum, isn't it? :p

Besides that.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266039
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Quote:
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The goalie thing is a minimum, isn't it? :p

Besides that.
yeah

Besides that no, there are no maximums lol


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266040
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That explains your success. No math to contend with.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266041
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STANDINGS AS OF MONDAY NOVEMBER 14th 2005


Code:
 Regular Season Standings 
 Rank     Team              W-L-T      WPct   PTS 
 1    fiveforfighting      36-17-7     .658   79 
 2    The Broadway Blues   30-23-7     .558   67 
 3    Plaw's Left Wingers  29-25-6     .533   64   
 4    Staten Isle Rockets  26-25-9     .508   61  
 5    DMC                  26-25-9     .508   61   
 6    The Ice picks        25-28-7     .475   57  
 7    Reg Dunlop           18-31-11    .392   47   
 8    Buffalo Chill        18-34-8     .367   44  
 
Just Lou's Five For Fighting moved into sole possession of first place!

Don Cardi's Broadway Blues and Plaws Left Wingers continue their climb in the standings and take second and third place respectively.

DMC's team continues their decline in the standings falling back into a tie for 4th place with The Staten Island Rockets, after DMC got spanked by Cardi's Broadway Blues.

The Iceman's Ice Picks went from 5th place to 6th place.

Reg Dunlops ( Maple Leafs ) and Buffalo Chill ( JJ ) continue their battle for last place with Buffalo Chill closing in point wise on Reg Dunlop.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266042
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All I can say is it's a good thing for you guys that I know virtually nothing about hockey, and I go back a ways.

I remember when there were only six teams, and I could name all the players on the top three lines on every team.

I was always a stats nut, and when I was a kid I made up a solitaire "Table Top" hockey game played with dice.

First you would roll the dice for each team to determine the final score.

Then, after determining how many goals each team scored, you rolled the dice again to see which line scored each goal, or if the goal was scored by a defenseman.

Then you rolled again to see which player on the line scored the goal.

Then you rolled again to see if the goal was unassisted, or if there were one or two assists on the goal.

Then after determining the number of assists, you rolled a final time to see if the assists were by the goal scorers linemates, or by a defenseman.

All of the rolls were more or less weighted, based on what I figured the probabilities to be.

For example (amazing how I remember this), I set it up so that 40% of a team's goals were scored by someone on their top line, 30% by someone on their second line, 20% by someone on their third line, and 10% by a defenseman.

And 20% of all goals were unassisted, 30% got one assist, and 50% got two assists (made for higher individual scoring totals).

I'd play out a whole season and the playoffs - it took maybe 10-12 hours - the purpose of which was to have a complete set of season stats when I was all done.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266043
11/15/05 02:53 PM
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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266044
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Yup.

I did the same thing for baseball, too.

Roll two dice, 36 possible outcomes.

Four of them walks, 8 hits, so you got a league batting average of about .250 (remember, this was the early to mid sixties, a pitcher's era), one home run, etc.

I played out a whole NL season a few times, which took a while with ten teams -- 810 games to play, about half an hour per game after recording the stats.

So about 405 hours to play out the season, 2-3 hours a day, took about as long as the real season.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266045
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STANDINGS AS OF MONDAY NOVEMBER 21th 2005


Code:
 Regular Season Standings 
 Rank     Team                 W-L-T      WPct   PTS 
 1    fiveforfighting          39-22-9     .621   87 
 2    The Broadway Blues       37-25-8     .586   82 
 3    Staten Isl Rockets       34-26-10    .557   78   
 4    DMC                      31-28-11    .521   73  
 5    Plaws Left Wingers       31-32-7     .493   69   
 6    The Ice picks            26-36-8     .429   60  
 7    Reg Dunlop               23-35-12    .414   58   
 8    Buffalo Chill            22-39-9     .379   53
Just Lou - Five For Fighting
Don Cardi- The Braodway Blues
Don Pelosi - Staten Isles Rockets
DonMichealCorleone - DMC
Plaw - Plaws Left Winger
TheIceMan - The Ice Picks
Maple Leafs - Reg Dunlops
Double J - Buffalo Chill


DJ, I made you a trade offer, but you haven't replied!


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266046
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What's the purpose of the "can't cut" list?

I imagine it's to prevent collusion between someone who's out of the running from placing a really good player on waivers, so his friend, who may be #1 in waiver priority, can pick him up.

But if two people want to do that anyway they can, simply by making a trade. The manager acquiring the so-called "good player" would have to drop someone, so he can just trade him instead.

Since the commissioner can overturn trades in which collusion is suspected, what's the point of a "can't cut" list, then?

If you wanted to have a can't cut list that goes into effect after the trading dealine, that would make sense, because anyone wanting to cut a good player would have to make their decision prior to the deadline or be stuck with the guy the rest of the way, but I don't see why we need this list so early in the season.

It's too early for anyone to consider themselves "out of it", so there'd be no reason for anybody to collude.

I ask because there's someone I may want to get rid of that I can't.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266047
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Nobody knows?


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266048
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The site itself implements a can't cut list rule. And as the commisioner I cannot even turn that option on or off, as the site does not give me the power to do so.

As you said, I guess it is implemented to prevent collusion. I guess that the league feels that even a commissioner may pre-arrange a deal with another player, so the site has this no cut list that not even the commissioner can control.

NFL.com does the same thing also.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266049
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Are you sure?

I'm commissionering our Yahoo basketball game, and in "Commissioner's Tools" they give you the option for "Can't Cut List" to be either "none" or provided by Yahoo Sports.

I chose "none" for our league, but it appears as if I still have the option to change it.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266050
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You were correct Plaw. Yahoo, unlike NFL.com does provide that option to their commissioners. I changed it to none as I agree, it's just ridiculous that you cannot cut certain players.

I am in another Yahoo FHL and I have a goalie who was rated as a top pick in the draft. He's basically been sent to the bench in favor of some hot rookie goalie, and I cannot cut this guy! Ridiculous.

Again, I had assumed that the CCL option was not given to me as over in my FFL the commish is NOT given that option.

But now I changed it for our league.

I have never played in a Yahoo Fantasy League before, so I was not familiar with the options of the commissioner.

Thanks for pointing that out.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266051
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In a custom league, the commissioner should be allowed to do anything they want to and set up their league any way they wish.

Another thing that bugs me - which, after corresponding with Yahoo, I found out cannot be changed - is that when you add a free agent, he should be able to go on your roster immediately. There's really no reason why you should have to wait until the next day to use him, unless there's something I'm not thinking of.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266052
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Quote:
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Another thing that bugs me - which, after corresponding with Yahoo, I found out cannot be changed - is that when you add a free agent, he should be able to go on your roster immediately. There's really no reason why you should have to wait until the next day to use him, unless there's something I'm not thinking of.
Well that rule makes sense. think about it. If they allowed you an immediate pick up, then an owner could stack his roster every game. Example: Suppose it's a Tuesday and one of your player's team is not playing their NHL game that night. If you were allowed to immediately add a free agent to your roster, you could find a comparable player who's NHL team IS playing that night, and add him to your roster for the game that night. Then on Wednesday, you do it again. Etc. etc.

If the free agent was added immediately to your roster when you picked him up on the same day, in theory an owner can manilulate his lineup to having his players play almost every night.

That rule, in my opinion, does make sense.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266053
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Well, you can still do that to a certain extent by planning one day in advance.

And also, you'd have to drop a player and risk losing him permanently if you wanted to do that.

In a league which has a maximum number of games limit, you would never want to do that because theoretically you would want to use your games with your best players.

In our basketball game, for example, we have two guys at each position with a maximum number of games of 82 at each position, for a total of 164.

My two shooting guards are Vince Carter and Dwane Wade, and I want them each to play as many games as possible, since no one on my bench is as good as either one of them, and there are obviously no free agents I could get who are as good as either one.

Even if there were no max # of games at each position, if I cut one of them to add a lesser guy who was playing on a night wwhen one of them was off, someone else would pick them up and I'd lose them forever.

In our hockey league, since there's no max # of games at each position it could be a danger, but you would only want to do it with your most marginal players - those, as you say, who could be replaced with guys of equal value.

But, theoretically, if we have a league with 8 teams and 16 players on each team, aren't the best 128 players already taken?

Even if I drop my worst player on a night off to pick up someone else who is playing, I get the benefit for that one night but, again theoretically, I'm now stuck with a guy of lesser quality than the one I cut.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266054
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Quote:
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Even if I drop my worst player on a night off to pick up someone else who is playing, I get the benefit for that one night but, again theoretically, I'm now stuck with a guy of lesser quality than the one I cut.
Yes, but you have the chance of his getting points for you by playing that night. Even just + / - can help you out. And if your opponent for that week does not take the same strategy as you do, you can literally crush him.

I personally like that rule of having to wait a day for the new free agent player to play on your team.


DB and Geoff were both right about you with Fantasy sports.






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I guess there's a difference between a league with a maximum # of games at each position and one with no maximum.

As far as JG and DB go......

I hope you're not implying that they said I cry and whine a lot?

JG, being major whiner himself, might, but DB would never say such a thing.

And besides, I never (well, hardly ever, and certainly not with good reason) cry and whine.

If you're implying that they said that I nitpick, well, yeah, I'll sort of plead guilty to that, except I view it more as trying to take an intelligent approach to the game, questioning what doesn't make sense, and offering opinions and solutions based on logic.

And besides, if I'm not gonna argue with you about the ACLU, rape, the death penalty, the war in Iraq, terrorism, sex education (Am I forgetting anything?), politics, or the Patriot Act (I think that covers just about everything), then what's left but fantasy sports? :p


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That's what you think! :p



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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266057
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I was watching the news and the referre had some object to measure how curved the guy's stick was. How does a more curved stick make it better?


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266058
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I was watching the news and the referre had some object to measure how curved the guy's stick was. How does a more curved stick make it better?
The more curved the blade of the stick is, the more movement the puck makes when a shot is taken. Almost like a spitball in baseball.


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Re: 2005-06 Fantasy Hockey League #266059
11/27/05 12:30 AM
11/27/05 12:30 AM
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 8,384
Staten Island / New Jersey
Just Lou Offline
Just Lou  Offline

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 8,384
Staten Island / New Jersey
When I used to play, we used to heat the blades of our sticks up with a blowtorch to curve them. I didn't like too big of a curve because although you could get off a wicked wrist shot, it took away from the slap shot, and made back-handers near impossible.

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