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best Runningback of all time
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11/11/04 03:42 PM
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I think Jim Brown was the best of all time Ricky Willams had what it takes but we all no what his promble is
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/11/04 04:30 PM
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Brown or O.J. for me.
And if you wanna talk about "coulda beens", the best combination of speed and power I ever saw in a RB was Bo Jackson.
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/11/04 05:21 PM
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With the different eras, it's impossible to say for sure. Jim Brown would get my vote, although I never saw him play. He averaged a little over 5 yards per carry during his career. He also had 12,000+ yards in just 9 seasons. Had Brown not retired early, he would have probably set records that Payton & Emmitt could have never broken. We'll never know.
I also always hear a comparison how the hash marks were different when he played. Basically, they were not as close together as I recall. I'm not 100% of the significance, other than to say Brown rarely ran out of bounds.
From the last 20 years, I would say Barry Sanders & Walter Payton. Honorable mention to Emmitt Smith.
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/11/04 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by goombah: Jim Brown had 12,000+ yards in just 9 seasons. And I believe that those were 12 games seasons, not the 16 they play now. Originally posted by goombah: I also always hear a comparison how the hash marks were different when he played. Basically, they were not as close together as I recall. I'm not 100% of the significance, other than to say Brown rarely ran out of bounds. The hash marks being further apart meant that the team on offense had a shorter field to work with, either to their right or left depending upon where the ball was spotted. So that would make it even more of an achievement if he hardly ever ran out of bounds, altho I don't beieve I've heard that said about him. I did see him play, but it's hard to remember more than 40 years ago.
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/15/04 02:06 PM
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Sweetness, Sanders, Brown, Smith, Faulk, Sayers, Simpson.
Bo Jackson is simply a gifted athlete. Had he remained healthy, and devoted time only to one sport, he would have been even better than he already was.
Herschel Walker deserves an honorable mention.
Anybody remember Marcus Dupree? If ever there was a Frank Deford "whatever happened to" Sports Illustrated article, Dupree would be it...
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/15/04 02:10 PM
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Marcus Allen? Eric Dickerson?
Csonka?
Grange?
Nagurski?
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/15/04 02:16 PM
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Since we're into the "Honorable Mentions"....
Eric Dickerson Earl Campbell
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/16/04 07:35 PM
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1. Jim Brown - Possibly the greatest football player of all time. Watching film of Brown is like watching a man play against high schoolers.
2. Walter Payton - He could do it all. He could outrun you, or jump over you. And he inflicted so much punishment on the defenders. It's usually the other way around.
3. Barry Sanders - He could have put the rushing record out of reach if he wanted to. The record would be over 20,000 if he was still playing today. He was very elusive and very entertaining. A more durable Gale Sayers.
4. Emmitt Smith - Some say he benefitted from playing behind the huge Dallas 0-line and having Aikman, Irvine, and Novacek to spread the defense. But you can't argue with the man's numbers. Probably had the best vision of any running back. He made up for his lack of speed with his instincts and decision making.
5. Eric Dickerson - Still holds the record for rushing yards in a season and rushing yards for a rookie. He ran with such grace that you forgot he was going so fast. If he stayed with the Rams he would have broken Payton's record before Emmitt. He might be best remembered for his contract squabbles.
6. O.J. Simpson - Speaking of Running Backs who will be remember for things off the field... Simpson was Jim Brown with less power but more moves. He had sprinter's speed and moves like Sayers and Barry. First man over 2000 yards in a season.
7. Gale Sayers - Most exciting RB of all time, along with Barry. His 6 TD performance in the mud against the 49ers will never be forgotten. Everyone was sliding around in the mud and Sayers was running around like the grass was perfectly dry. He'd be higher up on my list if he stayed healthy and played longer.
8. Earl Campbell - Next to Jim Brown, probably the best power back of all time. He led the league in rushing his first three seasons, and he was the epitome of the irresistable force. He could outrun you or lower his head and knock you down like a bowling pin.
9. Marshall Faulk - The ultimate weapon. He could take handoffs out of the backfield or line up in the slot and kill you as a receiver.
10. Tony Dorsett - Great back from the 70s and 80s that is often overlooked. Had great speed and was the main weapon for the Cowboy teams that bridged the gap between the Staubach and the Aikman eras.
Honorable mention
Jerome Bettis - a personal favorite of mine. Another great power back who is surprisingly near the top of all of the career rushing lists. Very clean record off the field, and everyone seems to love this guy. Has there ever been a better nickname for a RB than "The Bus"?
Curtis Martin - another guy who is climbing the all time rushing charts. He could end up in the top 4 or 5 before he's done. Unfortunately he has never been "the guy" in the league, always being overshadowed by the likes of Terrell Davis, Barry, Emmitt, Jamal Lewis, Priest Holmes, and others.
Marion Motley - You won't find his name on any of the all time leader lists, but this guy was the cornerstone of the early great Browns teams. Another great power back.
Bronko Nagurski - I don't know much about this guy, but the stories I have heard are legendary. He was bigger than most offensive linemen of his day.
Bo Jackson - In my opinion he could have been the next Jim Brown had he exclusively played football. Sports has never seen such a freakish blend of power and speed. He would play half a season and still rush for 900 yards.
Marcus Allen - He'd be higher up on this list if he didn't spend all of those years rotting away on the Raider bench because of Al Davis. One of the best goal line RBs ever, he resurrected his career in KC.
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/17/04 03:42 AM
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OMG! Good seeing you around, DC! As your old picture used to remind me of:
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/29/04 01:00 AM
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Barry Sanders or Curt Warner.
Shaun Alexander from Seattle is a touchdown machine, and he racks up a tonnage of yards when the terrible Seahawks play-calling gives him the ball. He could be up there.
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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11/29/04 01:47 AM
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I have to go with Barry Sanders. The man made moves that I never thought were ever possible. No offense to Daunte Hall, but this man has the rights to the title of the "human joystick". I am certain that if Barry would have continued to play, Emmitt Smith (or any other player for that matter) would never be able to catch him. The rushing record would be ridiculously high. His career is truly one of the biggest "what if's" in sports history.
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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12/02/04 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Don Marco: Barry Sanders was also exciting, but if you're the greatest back in history you don't get taken out of the game when you get near the goal line - and that is what the Lions did. I agree. That disqualifies Sanders. The most important aspect of the game is scoring touchdowns. To be considered the "greatest", you need a combination of speed and power. The greatest RB in history cannot be someone who was taken out of the game in short yardage goal line situations.
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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12/02/04 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by Signore Sole Aumentante: Barry Sanders or Curt Warner.
Kurt Warner is a QB.
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Re: best Runningback of all time
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12/02/04 09:39 AM
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Curt Warner was a RB who had a decent NFL career with Seattle in the 1980's. He went to Penn State, I believe.
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