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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/07/04 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by scarfacetm: gotta remember thou quarterbacks dont get stats or win without top receivers and montana did have owens for a lttle bit as well as rice wereas i cant really remember anyone for marino so yea id probobly give it to montana Yes, I gree. Marino was the more talented QB, never saw a QB who could fire the ball off so fast from the snap. Had he had a Jerry Rice to go to, forget about it! As for John Elway, I have never seen a QB who could get pressured into running the opposite way of his throwing arm and still throw a 60 yard pass down the field. However because of what Montana accomplished, and the type of players that he had around him, I would have to give the edge to him over Marino. Don Cardi
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/07/04 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by scarfacetm: gotta remember thou quarterbacks dont get stats or win without top receivers and montana did have owens for a lttle bit as well as rice wereas i cant really remember anyone for marino so yea id probobly give it to montana I agree with this also, but all of these QBs had good receivers at some point in their career. However, Owens never played with Montana, you may be confusing Young with Montana cuz Young did play with Owens.
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/08/04 10:24 PM
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Troy Aikman, Sammy Baugh, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, Brett Favre, Bob Griese, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Warren Moon, Joe Namath, Bart Starr, Roger Staubach, Fran Tarkenton, Johnny Unitas and Steve Young. I've probably left out some.
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/08/04 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by Patrick: AMEN to that, Patrick! Brett Favre is arguably the toughest QB ever to play the game, as his Iron Man streak extends past the 200 game mark. He knows how to win, even when he didn't have what people call "superstar" caliber receivers. During the season opener on Monday Night Football, his throws were clocked at 75 mph, equivalent to a 96 mph fastball in baseball. He's played well through a great deal of physical and personal setbacks over the years, which puts him over any player I've seen. No offense to the other QBs. The other selections here were superb. I may be biased since I'm a huge Packers fan, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Sal: "Tom, can you get me off the hook? For old times' sake?"
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/09/04 12:09 AM
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Favre has NEVER had a great WR. He has turned average guys into great WR. Just look at Freeman (time with Packers), Driver, and Walker. He also made Bill Schroeder a great WR a couple seasons ago. The only person he never really connected with was Glenn. -Pat
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/09/04 04:45 PM
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For me I would say Namath then Marino
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/09/04 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by DannyMontana: I always thought Boomer Esiason was really good. Actually Boomer was named one of the the most prolific left handed QB's in the history of the game. I didn't write it, a sports writer did! Don Cardi
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/19/04 02:19 AM
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Whereas Favre made the average receivers look great, Sterling Sharpe made an average quarterback in Green Bay look good...Don Majkowski!
There also has to be a place in history for guys like Gary Cuozzo and Sonny Sixkiller...
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/23/04 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Don Corpuzzi: Favre did play with a great WR. People seem to have forgotten about Sterling Sharpe. In the early 90s the three best WRs in the league were Sharpe, Rice, and Irvin. In 1989, three years before Favre became the starter in Green Bay, Sharpe led the league in catches and was second in receiving yards and receiving TDs. I wouldn't call Sterling Sharpe "great." He didn't play long enough and didn't change games like the other two WR you mentioned. Defenses didn't build gameplans on stopping Sharpe. Rather, opponents did devise ways of stopping Favre and Dorsey Levens (during the Pack's mid-1990's run). If you were to compare Sterling Sharpe to someone playing today, I would say he's in the same vein as Hines Ward, Eric Moulds, Derrick Mason, or Rod Smith. Sharpe was not in the same company as elite receivers like Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, or Randy Moss.
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Re: Best Quarterback of All-Time?
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11/23/04 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by goombah: I wouldn't call Sterling Sharpe "great." He didn't play long enough and didn't change games like the other two WR you mentioned. Defenses didn't build gameplans on stopping Sharpe. Rather, opponents did devise ways of stopping Favre and Dorsey Levens (during the Pack's mid-1990's run).
If you were to compare Sterling Sharpe to someone playing today, I would say he's in the same vein as Hines Ward, Eric Moulds, Derrick Mason, or Rod Smith. Sharpe was not in the same company as elite receivers like Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, or Randy Moss. Sharpe was a great WR like Terrell Davis was a great RB for a few years. He broke the NFL record for receptions in a season twice in two years, back when 100 receptions was a rare thing. In 1992 he led the league in receptions, receiving yards, and receiving TDs (and remember that Jerry Rice was still in his prime at this time).
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