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The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243831
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This is the game run by ESPN that we've been talking about. It works the same way as the baseball and basketball games we've played.

There's no draft or head to head competition like the Yahoo game. You pick your own team, and accumulate points based on the game's scoring system below. You can have the same players on your team as other members of the league.

The thing is, there's a salary cap, so you can't have a team with all the "best" players. You have to pick a couple of cheap ones, too.

Here's the link:

http://games.espn.go.com/gridiron/frontpage

To join our league you need an ESPN account, which is free. There's a link on the game home page to set your account up if you don't have one already.

Once your account is set up, the league you want to join is Gangster BB

The password is Corleone

Here's how the game works:

OBJECTIVE: The objective of Gridiron Challenge is to select a roster of eight (8) professional football players and one (1) team, while staying under the $50.0m salary cap, and accumulate the most points according to the scoring system. Once a player has been attained at a certain salary, that price is fixed and will not change as long as you have him on your roster. You have until the the first kickoff of each week's games for each roster slot to determine your lineup. At that time, whatever combination of players you have on your roster will be the players who accumulate points for the week (granted the total roster salary value is below the salary cap limit).

SELECT YOUR ROSTER: ESPN Gridiron Challenge rosters must consist of eight (8) players and one (1) team (please note you get both the team's defense and special teams -- see scoring grid below) which fit under the $50.0m salary cap. If either of these requirements are violated, you will receive 0 points for that week's play.

The nine (9) total slots on a team's roster consist of two (2) from each of the following positions: Quarterback (QB), Running Back (RB), Wide Receiver (WR) and Kicker (K) as well as one (1) Defense/Special Teams.

Salaries will be updated once a week (on Tuesday), and are based on a combination of the players/team season-to-date, current salary value, and last week's statistics according to the scoring system (see below). The value can go down as much as -.4 and up as much as .4 for any given weekly value update. Values will not reduce below 2.0 and can never exceed 8.5. Players can be moved onto your roster by selecting the player(s) or team you want and clicking on the "Add Player/Team" button as shown below. Keep in mind that each roster slot must always have two players, so you may need to unclick a player on your team as well. You will automatically be brought through this process when you first create your team.

WEEKLY PLAY: Your roster slot is frozen at the kickoff of the game in which the player or team is playing. You can change your selections at any time during the week until the kickoff of their particular game.

Keep in mind that each team in the NFL has one BYE week this season, so when your player has a BYE remember to either 1) change the player for another that doesn't have a BYE (thus losing the salary value you paid for him) or 2) or keep the BYE player on your roster (thus taking a 0 for the week, but keeping his salary).


SCORING: ESPN Gridiron Challenge scoring system is as follows:
All positions (QB, RB, WR, K)
6 pts per rushing, receiving or return TD
4 pts per passing TD
3 pts per field goal (FG) made
2 pts per passing, rushing or receiving 2 pt conversion
1 pt per 10 yards rushing or receiving
1 pt per 25 yards passing
1 pt per extra point (XP) made

Defensive/Special Teams (D)
10 pts for 0 points allowed
7 pts for 2-6 points allowed
4 pts for 7-13 points allowed
1 pt for 14-17 points allowed
0 pts for 18-21 points allowed (note: team defense is responsible for all points allowed)
-1 pts for 22-27 points allowed
-4 pts for 28-34 points allowed
-7 pts for 35-45 points allowed
-10 pts for 46+ points allowed

5 pts per team win
3 pts per defensive or special teams TD
2 pts per interception
2 pts per fumble recovery
2 pts per blocked punt, PAT, or FG (note: a deflected kick of any kind does not receive points)
2 pts per safety
1 pt per sack

SALARY VALUE VS. MARKET VALUE:`
A player or team's market value is the value at which they can be picked up at any time during the season. A player or team's salary value is the value at which you originally selected them.

A player or team's market value will change based upon performance in recent games. Here's a little hint that will increase your chances for success in the Gridiron Challenge: By selecting player's or team's who you think are undervalued compared to their potential performance, you get the most out of your Gridiron Challenge team. Like any team owner, your goal is to get the maximum performance from your roster within the $50m limit. Remember, a player or team's salary value on your team remains constant at the figure at which you acquired him. Note: As the game progresses your team's total market value may exceed 50 points. This is allowable for it reflects the current player or team's values, not the values at which you originally used to assemble your team. It is the salary value that must stay below 50 points. (But if you drop a player who you've had all season because it's his bye week, and his cap value has gone up, if yu want to re-acquire him the next week, it will be at his new, and probably higher, cap value

RENEGOTIATE:
If one or more player or team's salary value (price which you paid for them) is displayed higher than their market value (current price to attain) you can "renegotiate" his salary by clicking on the link by that name on your Clubhouse page. All renegotiated salaries will appear in the team's transaction logs.

Example: You paid $5.7m to attain Issac Bruce and notice that his current market value dropped to $5.4. To save the $0.3m simply click on the "Renegotiate" link. This way you can have more salary space to claim a player at another position.
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The above is a direct quote from the game site, and they make it a lot more complicated than it actually is.

Basically, it requires a little bit of attention once a week, to make sure that everyone on your team is playing, and that you don't want to make any changes. Depending on how seriously you take it, anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes.

Study the scoring system, though, and decide on which positions you think are the most valuable. That's probably where you want to have your most expensive players.

Any questions, just post. JG, Don Sicilia, and myself are all experienced at this type of game, and will be happy to help.

Until the game starts.... ;\)

Last edited by Don Sicilia; 11/16/07 05:41 PM.

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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243832
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Well, since there are no double headers and you only have to play once a week AND I have shown a certain amount of success at Fantasy Football - count me in. I hope we will also play the other one...Pigskin Pick em??


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243833
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I was just about to set-up the Pigskin Pick 'Em game, too


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243834
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Ugh, why didn't we start this way back when the Yahoo one was started?

I think I'm just going to stick to one fantasy football game this year.



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The game site wasn't up until yesterday.

This game is easy. You can pick a team and leave it for the whole season. Once the cap values start to go up, you may not want to make changes even if your best players are in their bye week.


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243836
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I'm in.


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243837
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Get in the "Pick 'Em" game also, Turi.

If you think you can pick winning players, you should be able to pick winning teams.


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243838
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I just got my team set up for this. Are the teams private as theoretically we can all pick the same team or copy who is doing well providing we're under the cap?

I am very much looking forward to this.


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243839
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Quote:
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
I just got my team set up for this. Are the teams private as theoretically we can all pick the same team or copy who is doing well providing we're under the cap?
Your roster "locks" -- no changes allowed -- after the start of the first game each week.

Once the rosters are locked, you can see everyone elses team for that week, and begin making any changes (or not, as you wish) for the following week.

But you can't see their teams for the upcoming week until the rosters lock for that week.

Yes, theoretically we can all have the same players, and you can copy the team that someone had the week before (but not for the upcoming week, since you can't see his team until your roster is locked), but keep in mind that he may change his team, and there is also the salary cap consideration.

Another player in our league may have his team locked in at lower cap values than their present values, and if you wanted to change to his players it might put you over the cap.

Sorry if that wasn't all that clear.....


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243840
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Yeah that's clear Plawrence, thanks. That's cool, a like the anonymity until you can't make changes.


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One more thing about the rules which I just noticed this morning:

Even though there was a game last night you can still change your roster, as long as it doesn't involve anyone who played last night.

In other words, I had Corey Dillon. I can't drop him, but I can change my other RB, but not to Edgarren James, who played yesterday.

Similarly, I can still change my QBS, but I can't change to Brady or Manning.

I don't know if this will be the case for games that start 4 PM Sunday, or the Sunday Night and Monday Night games, or if your whole roster will lock at 1 PM Sunday


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243842
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It's my understanding that the scores for the week are usually updated by mid-morning on Tuesday, at which time you can make adjustments to your team for next week.


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243843
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Nice pickin' pl - 22. Do you think I'll be able to see how I got my 19 points?


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243844
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The scores they're showing are all wrong.

Check back mid-morning.


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243845
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Yeah, I should be on top.

Who's this C.B.?


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Quote:
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
Yeah, I should be on top.
Um, not exactly....

Quote:
Who's this C.B ?
"Neri". BB member #10


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243847
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Standings After Week One
Code:
PL  147 (plawrence)
MC  110 (MaryCas)
JG  105 (JGeoff)
SP  102 (Spike716)
TG   91 (Turi)
CB   90 (Neri)
DB   81 (Don Sicilia, a.k.a. Douche Bigelow)


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243848
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Ok, and apologies for posting the name publicly.


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pl. nice pick of Shaun Alexander. Kinda neat how Moss only makes 4 catches, low yards, but scores 2 TD and gets 15 points. I think this will be an interesting format.


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Well, I like it.

Say, I have an idea

Why don't you just pick the whole NY Giants team and leave them there and see what happens? :p


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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:


Why don't you just pick the whole NY Giants team and leave them there and see what happens? :p
Maybe the '86 Giants. That's a thought though. One weekend I might just pick one whole team. Probably in week 12 when I have a triple digit lead and can afford to take a chance. Thanks for the tip.


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243852
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Standings After Week Two
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JG   105    127    232
PL   147     81    228
SP   102    117    219
MC   110    108    218
TG    91    126    217
CB    90    124    214
DB    81     91    172


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Re: The "Other" Fantasy Football (Salary Cap) Game #243853
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Nice move JG. Tough week PL. DB, hello down there. Scanning through the picks, we're not picking any no-names. You just can't tell who is going to do what.

I re-checked the scoring criteria. Interesting that they don't have fumbles lost or INTs. Ahman Green ran for 126 yds, but fumbled a few times and his team lost. Which consequently dropped a 1,000+ people out of my survivor pool (the real one, the one for $$) BTW, I'm still in.


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Quote:
Originally posted by MaryCas:
DB, hello down there.
Between Fantasy Golf and this, you have a veritable cornucopia of options to trash talk me!

The last two weeks fantasy-wise have been un-friggin-believable!

I think Pork and Buffy must have hexed me when they were in town.

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Quote:
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I think Pork and Buffy must have hexed me when they were in town.
What? No pictures?


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That was "hexed". Not "sexed"


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Yeah, Douche, what's going on? You're at or near the bottom of every football game we're playing (with me, of course, except for this one -- for now



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I tried to get into this end of last week, joined picked a team but could not join the league. Is this one locked also ?

Granted I did miss the first week but I think I can at least catch some of the teams by year end.

So is it locked or not ?

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I was able to sign up this morning.


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It doesn't appear to be locked



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