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Re: Pope John Paul I
#23425
04/05/05 10:43 PM
04/05/05 10:43 PM
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Posts: 319 Providence, RI
Moscarelli
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Well, this was all just a fictionalised turn of events that they seem to do a lot.
Like Moe Green was Bugsy Siegel, Hyman Roth was Meyer Lanksky, Johnny Fontane was Frank Sinatra, and so on.
Its obvious who the characters are about but they change the names so that they can change the character around a little bit without anyone getting mad.
"The toe you stepped on yesterday may be attached to the ass you have to kiss today." -Former Mayor of Providence, RI, Vincent "Buddy" Cianci
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Re: Pope John Paul I
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04/06/05 02:04 AM
04/06/05 02:04 AM
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Lollie
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Movie producers can get sued if they portray situations too close to real life real people's lives--especially people who are public figures. I doubt very much if the Church would have sued, but enough stupid people thought that the story was somehow either the truth or close to the truth. I think that is one of the reasons for all that brohaha over Sinatra and the horse's head scene.
~~ Lollie
"Sono una roccia; Sono un'isola...una roccia non ritiene dolore; un'isola non grida mai."
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Re: Pope John Paul I
#23432
04/06/05 01:38 PM
04/06/05 01:38 PM
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dontomasso
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Originally posted by olivant: Hello! It's called a movie. Let's keep it civil.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Pope John Paul I
#23435
04/07/05 12:23 PM
04/07/05 12:23 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 8,224 New Jersey
AppleOnYa
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Originally posted by Pippi De Lena: ...I in no way figured that what happened with Pope John Paul I in the movie was the same as what happened to him in real life. I was just simply curious but I figured that the writers changed the historical account either ... If you realize that what happened to the Pope in GFIII is not what happened in real life...then how can you be curious as to why the writers of fictional movie would 'change' a historical account? Or that they would change the year? What happens in GFIII is clearly a fictional story, based very loosely on historical fact. Happens all the time in cinema. And on TV too - most notably on Law & Order where MANY episodes are written right from the headlines yet are still able to be depicted as fictional events. I go along with olivant's response....which in comparison to alot I've seen on this Board is FAR from un-civil. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: Pope John Paul I
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04/07/05 02:22 PM
04/07/05 02:22 PM
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Posts: 924 toronto
mr. soprano
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he asked a simple question...that's what this board is here for. if no one likes his question..ignore the damn post. simple as that. i find nothing wrong with him asking a simple question.
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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Re: Pope John Paul I
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04/07/05 02:40 PM
04/07/05 02:40 PM
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Posts: 924 toronto
mr. soprano
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it's funny i was just reading his question carefully...and i don't notice any theories on there. im sure if you read it very carefully you'll find that he's simply asking, and that is the importante work in this, why the writers of the movie choose to have this changes to events that have happened...obviously knowing that the pope wasn't poisoned. from what i see it's a simple question that does not deserve or need attitude from anyone on this board. old or new.
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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Re: Pope John Paul I
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04/07/05 04:15 PM
04/07/05 04:15 PM
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Don Cardi
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First of all let me start by saying that I am very surprised at how the "veterans" of these boards have acted here. I for one don't think that a new member should be answered in that manner. The NEW member asked a question, a legitimate one, and was deserving of an honest and respectful answer. Not a hostile one! This is NOT the first time that one of the members on here has been hostile towards a new member. There have been many instances of it! And there have been hostile posts that have been deleted before anyone else could see them. These boards are definately here for our pleasure, but they are also here to attract new members for many different reasons. The hostility that has been shown here towards the new members lately has been out of control! Acting that way is not a way to keep new members posting here! Everyone is entitled to their opinions and there is nothing wrong with debating an issue. But when debating an issue, there is absolutely no reason to be snooty or make condencending remarks, especially with new members! I just don't think that it is the proper way to help keep new people posting on here! The hostility towards the new people must stop. If you want to discuss and debate the original topic that was posted, by all means please continue to do so. But if I see this topic sway off the subject originally posted, and see any more hostility towards the new member who made the post, I am going to have to close this topic. So let's just keep it civil. Thanks! Don Cardi
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Pope John Paul I
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04/08/05 12:45 AM
04/08/05 12:45 AM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope
plawrence
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: rotten apples have been spoiling the barrel since about August 2002. And they've outlasted quite a few other fruits along the way!! I resemble that remark Of course, it might have been directed at any of the following members (besides myself, of course) who joined in August 2002: #1327 howardsternisgod (8/8) #1365 Sicilian Babe (8/19) #1402 Just Lou (8/29) Apple?
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Pope John Paul I
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04/08/05 09:58 AM
04/08/05 09:58 AM
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AppleOnYa
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Originally posted by plawrence: [QUOTE]... it might have been directed at any of the following members (besides myself, of course) who joined in August 2002... It was directed at anyone to whome it applies. Why play favorites at a time like this? Recently (about 2 months ago) I got a 'private' e-mail from another 'old timer' (and another well known 'Don') lamenting at what has happened to this Board, where have all the 'normal' people gone...and that for the most part all that remains is "grammar school like subjects", "silly word games", "half a brain posts", and... "giving each other high five's for reaching some dumb post count"...usually as a result of one of the above. This old timer 'Don' mentioned that the list is now full of "young kids with chips on their shoulders with little or no life at all." At the time I hadn't posted or even visited the site in a while and thought I'd take a look. Recent visits have proven that communication quite accurate. Aside from all that, we're now asked to play nice with the newbies; apparently ignoring the fact that is was another relative 'newbie' who originally posted 'Hello, it's called a MOVIE' in response to the brilliant theory that began this topic. So y'know what, Don Cardi? Go ahead and attract new members for many different reasons, and enjoy what you get. I'll happily step aside again and spare myself from the urge to make condescending remarks and "...correct these children who post half truths and want to argue rather then discuss subjects..." (oh, yeah that's another quote from my old-timer buddy). Meanwhile, I'll also spare you the urge to scold, close threads and delete 'hostile' posts. Enjoy the Board, everyone!! And I want everyone here to know there's gonna be no trouble from me. Cicci -- a port'! Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: Pope John Paul I
#23450
04/08/05 02:04 PM
04/08/05 02:04 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope
plawrence
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: It was directed at anyone to whome it applies. Why play favorites at a time like this?
Recently (about 2 months ago) I got a 'private' e-mail from another 'old timer' (and another well known 'Don') lamenting at what has happened to this Board, etc., etc.... Where you got August, 2002 from still mystifies me But your "private e-mail" story explains a lot, because I didn't know, until this day, that it was ******** *** all along.
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Pope John Paul I
#23451
04/08/05 04:40 PM
04/08/05 04:40 PM
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Don Cardi
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: So y'know what, Don Cardi? Go ahead and attract new members for many different reasons, and enjoy what you get. I'll happily step aside again and spare myself from the urge to make condescending remarks and "...correct these children who post half truths and want to argue rather then discuss subjects..." (oh, yeah that's another quote from my old-timer buddy).
Meanwhile, I'll also spare you the urge to scold, close threads and delete 'hostile' posts.
Enjoy the Board, everyone!!
And I want everyone here to know there's gonna be no trouble from me.
Cicci -- a port'!
Apple Ahh, the old lady had too much wine! Apple, what have I ever done to you to make you disrepect me? I am truly sorry that you feel this way. I hope that when you have time to think it over you will stay here with us and continue to contribute to these boards. Don Cardi
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Pope John Paul I
#23452
04/08/05 05:02 PM
04/08/05 05:02 PM
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Posts: 8,224 New Jersey
AppleOnYa
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Originally posted by plawrence: [QUOTE]...I didn't know, until this day, that it was ******** *** all along. How'd you guess !!! I have returned because Don C sent me a VERY NICE private post. Luckily though, it's the weekend and I'll be away from the Board until Monday so everybody (including me) gets a chance to chill. See you soon! Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: Pope John Paul I
#23453
04/11/05 10:35 AM
04/11/05 10:35 AM
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Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel
dontomasso
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: Originally posted by plawrence: [b] [QUOTE]...I didn't know, until this day, that it was ******** *** all along.
How'd you guess !!!
I have returned because Don C sent me a VERY NICE private post. Luckily though, it's the weekend and I'll be away from the Board until Monday so everybody (including me) gets a chance to chill.
See you soon!
Apple [/b]"And therein lies the peace."
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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