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Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/12/04 11:29 AM
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THE SOPRANOS 63: THE TEST DREAM Running Time: 57 minutes Though his affair with Valentina is heating up, Tony can't seem to get an old flame out of his mind. After digesting an unsavory bit of news, Tony B. takes out his agita in an all-too-familiar way. Treating himself to a night's repose in the city, Tony ends up in another somnolent funhouse.
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/12/04 05:12 PM
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"Somnolent funhouse"? I wonder what that implies? Is it going to be another episode like the Season Two finale, "Funhouse", where Tony has a bunch of wild dreams?
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/15/04 05:24 AM
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Sounds interesting, but I am eager to see what happens with this Johnny Sac/Little Carmine war. There's only three more episodes to go and from looking at the previews (although misleading) I am on the edge of my seat to see what happens. Good season thus far.
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/15/04 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Lucky_Luciano: Sounds interesting, but I am eager to see what happens with this Johnny Sac/Little Carmine war. There's only three more episodes to go and from looking at the previews (although misleading) I am on the edge of my seat to see what happens. Good season thus far. Don't be surprised if nothing happens. They spent half a season last season building up an affair with Carmella and Furio, and nothing happened. Raymond Curto has been wearing a wire since Season 3, and nothings happened. Adrianna's been talking to the feds for what seems like forever, and it looks like it's going nowhere (this season). Uncle Junior was losing his marbles earlier this season, now he's hardly ever seen. They made Vito go down on a guy for some shock value, but that will probably be another forgotten issue. As you can tell, I'm very disappointed this season. I thought after having all the time off between Season 4 and 5, the writing would pick up, and the show would flow from one episode to the next like the first 2 seasons. But just like last season, each episode goes off in a different direction. Each time there is a good episode and I think "I can't wait to see what happens next week", nothing happens. They just go off in another direction and forget 75% of what happened the week before.
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/16/04 09:34 PM
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My thoughts exactly!!
Plus there were all these new characters this season. This took up even more scenes. I was very happy with the original characters.
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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Funny, real funny BUT, why waste our time! I am starting to feel that Chase is making a fool out of all his fans! To think we waited so long for this and the talk is we will wait so long for next season! Still some funny stuff.
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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this is the kind of episode they play in the earlier episodes of a season not the last 3... funny yes, entertaining, at times.. but a waste of time indeed. way 2 many things have been unresolved in the sopranos world lately and the shows lacking what it once posessed years ago. i love the sopranos but they do seem 2 move on as if every episode is the 1st of the season . Best moments of this episode.. didnt like who they whacked but when phil leotardo and his brother killed whats hos name, and when valentina caught on fire. and little bits n pieces of tonys dream were fun. worst moment EVER... the dead crooked cop or w/e who was Fins dad supposably singing that god damn song for 5 min! very annoying haha.
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/16/04 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by fathersson: Funny, real funny
BUT, why waste our time!
I am starting to feel that Chase is making a fool out of all his fans! To think we waited so long for this and the talk is we will wait so long for next season!
Still some funny stuff. If this was episode 4, it would be an excellent episode. Being episode 11, I don't know what Chase is thinking. The episode was very entertaining, but now we have only 2 episodes left, and there is no way everything they started this season is going to get resolved. It looks like Tony B. gets whacked, Tony and Carmella eventually will reconcile, and Adriana with the feds will drag on to Season 6. *yawn*
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/16/04 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by SC: Why are there so many people who feel this season, or the show in general, has to be summed up neatly at the end??
The show hasn't resolved itself in earlier seasons, and I suspect this year won't be any different. The first 2 seasons, the writing was so good, they were like one giant 13 hour episode. The last 2 seasons are like a cluster f*ck. You can tape each episode, mix them up, watch them in random sequence, and it would make no difference. What happens the week before usually has little to do what is going to happen in the next episode. They should be building to a big climax for Season 5, and tonight Chase decides to take a trip down memory lane. ...And by the way, is Dominic Chianese still alive? At least they allow Tony Sirico and Steve Van Zandt make a token appearance each episode. Maybe the series should change its name to the "James Gandolfini Show." Ok, I'm done venting my frustration.
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/17/04 09:25 AM
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Probably one of the most "unusual" episodes of the series. What's with Tony losing his teeth? And in his dream several asking Tony, "Did you get it done or You gonna take care of it?". (The dead guy in the bed, Carm when Tony was on the horse, and the black kid in the street in the Frank Vincent scene also asked it similarly to Tony, and Tony said, "I don't have a piece". I too got a kick out of the GF references. SC, I caught the "Peanuts", but didn't catch the "Rag Doll" (nice catch) Anyone notice in the link here that provided the storyling of this episode? "As Tony's affair with Irinna heats up?""" I agree with most and have concluded that many storylines will not be tied up, but I still enjoyed this episode as I did last week's. In my view, this season has concentrated much on Tony's emotional state and leading us to believe that perhaps this is the beginning of his downfall. I think this last episode with all the dead people appearing in his dreams proves that he has many issues to deal with. Don't you think this whole season has been somewhat of a "physcological" study of Tony?? TIS
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: What's with..... And in his dream several asking Tony, "Did you get it done or You gonna take care of it?". I took that sequence as Tony wrestling with his conscience about having to kill Tony B. Everyone knows Tony HAS TO kill Tony B. in order to avoid a war in which many will die. All the dead people (and Carmella) were asking Tony if he decided to kill Tony B. (and thus allow business to return to "normal"). Totally off subject, but I just found out that the final episode of the season won't air until June 6th (there'll be no show on Sunday, May 30th).
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/17/04 10:02 AM
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I agree with all of you that say that this type of episode should have been placed earlier in the season.
Some Comments.
They did.nt need to burn Valentine, in fact if they wanted they could have burned her during the dream.
The dream was much too long. They should have shortened the dream sequence and leave time to show us Tony B trying to take out Phil L and end up taking out Billy L.
That being said I have to watch this episode again. I think there are a lot of hidden little nuggets in that dream.
The most inportant part of the dream I felt is when Tony answered a question " You know what has to be done" and he said yeah I did my home work and held up the paperback " The Valachi Papers". I think Tony knows in his sub-concious that he needs to flip to have any chance of saving his soul & the souls of his family. I think that is a hint of how the series will end.
Some Questions ?
Did Tony S know about the hit on Angelo when he was at Tony B's in the morning ?
Who called the Plaza and told Tony S about Angelo ?
Why did Tony go to the Plaza ?
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/17/04 04:10 PM
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This may be way "out there", but do any of you think it's possible that Christopher was maybe a little too eager to blame Tony B??? I mean, we all know he is jealous of him. I too was surprised they didn't show it. TIS
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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05/17/04 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by Daigo Mick Friend: Some Questions ?
Did Tony S know about the hit on Angelo when he was at Tony B's in the morning ?
Who called the Plaza and told Tony S about Angelo ?
Why did Tony go to the Plaza ? 1) Pretty sure he did, but not sure how he found out. That was why he was so uneasy, used getting the kids back to the Mother's house as an excuse for himself to leave, etcetera. 2) Sounded like Silvio, but now I can't remember if it was Silvio or Christopher (who showed up later). Not sure why I'm so foggy on this. 3) He said it was because his Mother's house was falling apart around him or some mess like that. Not sure if that was literal or figurative, but he sure wasn't happy with his maid... Nick
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Re: Season 5, Episode 11: "The Test Dream"
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Originally posted by Paul Pisano: [quote]Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: [b] This may be way "out there", but do any of you think it's possible that Christopher was maybe a little too eager to blame Tony B??? I mean, we all know he is jealous of him. I too was surprised they didn't show it.
TIS Good point. Chris hates Tony B with a passion. Look at the trip to the country. Tony S and Tony B sat in the restaurant making jokes about Christopher. Did you catch the look on Chris' face when he was driving back home. [/b][/quote]I read predictions of Tony B.'s being murdered by the end of the season in this thread, but the previews are very misleading. There's a possibility that Johnny Sack could go down. He has been hostile to Tony ever since the latter refused to lend a hand in what he adjudged to be an imprudent maneuver (taking out old man Carmine) in the end of the fourth season. The decision to rule in Tony's favor on the sale of the race track, I believe, was taken simply because he could not afford an enemy of such status while he was still in confrotation with Little Carmine (recall Johnny's face when Tony was getting into John's new, beautiful Maserati). Now, Joey Peeps & Billy Leotardo are gone, & his right hand man Phil is in the hospital. As Angelo, a real pillar in Carmine's corner is gone, naturally retribution will follow from Little Carmine either on Johnny or on Phil. Johnny should not be making any demands. Tony's already gone to bat for Tony B. once, & was threatened by John after it, now whether or not Tony denies his cousin's hand in Joey's murder, John will know for sure, since Tony B. reared his head again to avenge Angelo, making his previous involvement obvious. I think he will do it again; [" We're all fucked" (indicating his lack of intentions to murder his Tony B.), & in the previews Tony said something along the lines of: "It's all about the people I love", as well as the entire road to hell theme. If Tony B. dies I believe there will be no showdown between The Bricks & New York]. I don't think Tony has it in him to off his own cousin who has always been his best friend & whose life he feels he's already stolen. John just has to go, otherwise this season will have be a nothing but a solid debacle to me. But we'll see soon enough. On a sidenote: I drool over Anette Benning & have over Kathrine Narducci ever since I saw her first in A Bronx Tale. I will find that woman one day.
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