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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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12/03/03 12:37 AM
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The Italian Stallionette
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Welcome Angiez23, I do believe you are our first member from Chile. Hope you enjoy it here. TIS
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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12/03/03 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
[b]*****SPOILER****
At first Lou, I didn't think he did. Then rewatching that episode on Sunday and hearing the way Ralphie was saying "It's just an animal, etc.", I started having my doubts. He was so slimely and sneaky, I think he could have done it. But I'm not positive, even tho I voted yes.
TIS [/b] I think Ralphie was surely capable of doing something like this, but I don't think he did. Tony was so obsessed with that horse, I think he just assumed Ralph did it, because he knows Ralphie is capable of doing something terrible like that. I believe at the time it happened, the only thing Ralph was thinking about was his son. It even drove him to go to church, of all places. It seemed like he was trying to ammend his ways somewhat, because of his son's condition. He even asked Rosalie Aprile to marry him. I think the horse was the last thing on his mind.
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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12/03/03 10:31 AM
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You make valid points Just Lou. Ralpie's grief for his son did seem sincere. You may be right, but Ralphie is the kind of scum that you never quite trust. Hopefully we'll find out next season, along with other storylines that haven't come together yet. (i.e. Melfi's rape- will Tony find out and what will he do?) TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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12/04/03 10:15 AM
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RB, How neat that your teacher is related to JP! Not that what he says isn't true but makes me wonder if he isn't just jealous? TIS
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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12/19/03 07:00 PM
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No, I don't think Ralph set the fire that killed Pie-O-My. I think he is certainly CAPABLE of doing such a thing, but I don't think he did it.
I think this is a case of Tony becoming more compulsive and irrational, and hurting his business by being that way.
You gotta wonder about Tony. He was more than willing to kill Ralph over ALLEGEDLY killing a horse, but was actually debating over killing Ralph a year earlier, when Ralph DEFINITELY killed Tracee.
Mr. Soprano has his priorities a tad mixed up, I think.
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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12/22/03 04:00 PM
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I was watching the Sunday reruns of the Sopranos(Season 4) and noticed the copyright was 2002. How long has it been since the last season? Did it end in 2002 or was that early 2003, I cant remember.
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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12/22/03 10:34 PM
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"it had to have been Ralphie. There is no other candidate."
You're right, there are no other candidates. The reason why is because it was an accident, not intentional arson. Ralphie was a guy who was capable of such a deed, but I don't think he did it.
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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01/26/04 09:33 AM
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I don't think any member of the Soprano family killed Pie-o-my. If it was a fellow-wiseguy i think they would have showed them doing it in typical Sopranos fashion.
I've just realsied, there is 1 episode of the sopranos that i have never seen, and its the one where Christopher kills the cop, thats really annoying, could someone tell me what this episode is called. Thanks.
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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01/26/04 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Just Lou: For All Debts Public And Private. The first episode of Season 4. That's the worst Sopranos episode ever, IMO. Mick
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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01/28/04 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra: Everybody is completely different in that episode compared to where we left them in season three; Carmela's all lovey dovey over Furio, Chris is back into drugs, contrary to how we left him, and I didn't like Chris killing the (probably innocent as regards killing Chris' dad) cop.
I've seen season four twice now, and it's still good, but the worst in the season.
Mick I agree there, but I sometimes wonder about the cop... http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/wernick/sightings/scoop/scoop_oldclip_40.shtml Haydu didn't like Dickie, that's for sure. Doesn't mean he killed him, but still makes me wonder a bit. Nick
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Re: Was Ralph responsible for the fire? *Spoiler*
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01/28/04 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Nick totoro: [quote]Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra: [b] Everybody is completely different in that episode compared to where we left them in season three; Carmela's all lovey dovey over Furio, Chris is back into drugs, contrary to how we left him, and I didn't like Chris killing the (probably innocent as regards killing Chris' dad) cop.
I've seen season four twice now, and it's still good, but the worst in the season.
Mick I agree there, but I sometimes wonder about the cop... http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/wernick/sightings/scoop/scoop_oldclip_40.shtml Haydu didn't like Dickie, that's for sure. Doesn't mean he killed him, but still makes me wonder a bit. Nick [/b][/quote]If you watch the scene carfeully, the cop denies everything until Chris is about to shot him. Then he starts saying: "I'm sorry, I'm sorry". It makes me believe the cop did kill Dickie. Otherwise, what is he apologizing for?
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