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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211722
10/14/02 11:25 PM
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I thought it looked like she was sitting with Furio.

Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211723
10/15/02 03:34 PM
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Well from reading some of the posts it looks like I really didn't miss that much. So I got pissed off for nothing I guess My VCR didn't record a damn thing What a hunk of shit!


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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211724
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Carmella seems to me like she is selfish..

Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211725
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Quote:
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Carmella seems to me like she is selfish..
I oon't know about selfish, but she does go about life with a chip on her shoulder. On one hand she has the good life, on the other she's married to the head of a crime family.

Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211726
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I don't look at Carmella as selfish at all. I think she is genuinely concerned about finances if something happens to Tony. Yea, she has a good life as far as material things go, but must have "issues" in the relationship department. I do think she loves Tony though, and I think Tony loves her, in spite of his indescretions.

TIS


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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211727
10/16/02 09:30 AM
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Who was Tony calling a bitch though? Was it Inez, the horse-owner for calling him? Was it Ralphie,for not being around to pay the vet? or was it Carmella, for getting on his nerves? I never got that part. It seemed to me to be Carmella, although I will find that very odd 'cuz he doesn't seem to be one that calls his wife names even though he has no respect for her and all.

Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211728
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When Tony was informed that he had to take care of the sick horse, he actually said, "Sonofabitch...", not just "bitch".
Tony was either complaining about Ralphie or just about the fact he had to go out at night, in the middle of the rain.


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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211729
10/16/02 10:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette:
I don't look at Carmella as selfish at all. I think she is genuinely concerned about finances if something happens to Tony. Yea, she has a good life as far as material things go, but must have "issues" in the relationship department. I do think she loves Tony though, and I think Tony loves her, in spite of his indescretions.

TIS
I agree with you there TIS,

I think she is also just concerned if something happens to Tony. I think she wishes that he would be faithful to her and her alone, but despite that she does love him, and even though he does disrespect her with the affairs and what not, this is the life they chose and I'm sure she was aware of it when she entered the marriage.

He's shown that he loves her in his own way, the way he buys her furs and things when he has a good week. He doesn't have to buy her anything, and the way some of those guys treat their women it wouldn't be surprising if he didn't.

Granted it's not an "ideal" marriage by any stretch, but then again this is a mafia marriage :rolleyes: So what'yda expect?


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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211730
10/16/02 11:15 AM
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Quote:
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Who was Tony calling a bitch though? Was it Inez, the horse-owner for calling him? Was it Ralphie,for not being around to pay the vet? or was it Carmella, for getting on his nerves? I never got that part. It seemed to me to be Carmella, although I will find that very odd 'cuz he doesn't seem to be one that calls his wife names even though he has no respect for her and all.
I'm pretty sure it was Raph that he was referring to.
He must have known that Ralphie told her to call him.

Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211731
10/16/02 12:23 PM
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He realized that Ralphie had "set him up". It's no big deal really but Ralphie is saying to Tony, "If you want to share the winnings, then you have to help". Since it doesn't fall within the "earnings" of a mobster, it's accepted behavior, in my opinion. Tony held his hand out for more so Ralphie's geting back at him.

Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211732
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Quote:
Originally posted by Oblong:
He realized that Ralphie had "set him up". It's no big deal really but Ralphie is saying to Tony, "If you want to share the winnings, then you have to help". Since it doesn't fall within the "earnings" of a mobster, it's accepted behavior, in my opinion. Tony held his hand out for more so Ralphie's geting back at him.
That scene was funny as hell. Ralphie gave Tony some money and Tony KEPT his hand out for more.

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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211733
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i belive he does say bitch not sonofabitch..

Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211734
10/17/02 08:24 AM
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Yeah your right getoverher I watched it last night and it really sounded like he said bitch.


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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211735
10/20/02 05:49 PM
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It does look like something is cooking this season with the women. (Pun intentional, awright?!) Carmela's anxiety about their financial future (and TIS, I too believe she's being caring, not selfish) while at the same time developing a potentially disastrous crush on Furio. Janet doing - what? Either a) going after Bobby because she feels she must have a man and/or b)using Bobby to wheedle into Junior's favor (to challenge Tony?) Meadow taking charge of her life and losing her adolescent petulance. And poor Adrianna; betrayed by her one close "friend", now on the spot to rat or go to jail, unsuccessfully trying to pull Christopher out of it; she's collapsing. We see so much of Dr. Melfi's own therapy sessions; to set up a breakthrough? Break w/ Tony? Will her son and Meadow get together??

And that Gloria?! Aaaagghh!

Looking forward to tonight!

(BTW...my father, Italian, not young, not too well, told me he cried when Tony sat with the ailing horse as the Dean Martin "Rio Bravo" ballad played. It was a surprisingly sweet moment, and I love my dad's reaction. Just wanted to share that about my dad with you all; forgive my sentimentality!)

Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211736
10/20/02 06:43 PM
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I do kind of feel sorry for Adriana but does she actually know any real facts that could bust Tony and company??

I too, think this season something will break with Melfi and her rape; like Tony finding out.

And the lady car dealer...I wonder what she's up to? Of all the women Tony's been with I don't know why, but I don't particularily want him to mess with her. (Not that I condone his other women). She's creepy!!

Carmella's Grandaughter, that scene you referred to with Tony and the horse, I thought was kind of nice as well. Wasn't that Rick Nelson singing with Dean Martin? I believe he was in the movie as well. (Hope your dad gets well soon )

TIS


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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211737
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When do you guys think Adrianna will tell Crhis about the FBI?


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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211738
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Hey Blake!! Where you been???

I think Adrianna should have said something right away. I think the longer she waits, the more guilty she's gonna look. I realize she is scared, but had she told Tony or Christopher that same day, I think her chances of being believed would have been greater than they are now.

TIS


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Re: Season 4 episode 5 #211739
10/26/02 04:05 PM
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TIS, thank you so much for your kind thoughts about my dad; much appreciated! And yes, although I said to my dad, "Wasn't that Ricky Martin singing with Dean Martin?" (duh!), he corrected me, Ricky NELSON, of course!

Take care.
C'sG

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