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Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208066
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will it happen anytime soon?

Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208067
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If theres a god there wont be a GFIV


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i agree it ruins the saga completely.

Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208069
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Hell, GF III should not have been made if that was the intended final result.


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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208070
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While many people have still have hatred and disappointment with GFIII, time has been very good to that movie. so much so that a fourth Godfather could be a financial success. Part III actually has become quite the little movie that could in terms of rentals, and with the age of people collecting all Oscar Best Picture nominees, it was certainly a big selling point for people to get the DVD package when they most certainly had the first two on VHS.

Part IV could work, but it shouldnt be made. there is really no point. Even as recent as two months ago, i would say yes it will be made, but i truly dont think so. there has been zero buzz for "Godfather Returns/Part IV", FFC has no interest in filming the movie and neither does Sofia Coppola. Mario Puzo is dead. Mary Corleone is 'dead', and Michael is 'dead'.

Let the trilogy stay as it is. The greatest series of movies EVER.
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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208071
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I still hate the Third Godfather.

nt cause it sucked but because it wasnt NEAR as good as the other Two.


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- Greed

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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208072
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4th better not happen. Don't dick with the 3 greatest movies of all time!

Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208073
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Mike Sullivan, I don't hate GFIII, but I do believe many people who are just average fans of GF one and two (in other words not as dedicated as we are) feel the same way. I have heard the same thing so many times, how bad GT3 was. IMO the problem is it never really had a chance to be as good as the first two movies. We were lucky GF2 was so outstanding, given the usual drop-off in quality of almost all sequels. You are right though in comparision GF3 left much to be desired.

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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208074
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I hate it not just because of the story but because it tarnishes the perfection of teh Prior parts of the Saga.


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The Bridge On The River Kwai

GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled.
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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208075
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just saw the first godfather, not too bad. i'm having a hard time watching the 2nd one though.....


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If Part IV worked well, was well made, and was set in the time when Santino was running the Family in the 30's, I'd be interested in it.

Unfortunately, that probably wont happen.

I think it's best to leave the trilogy as it is. Even though Part III was a let down, it's still a great series of movies.


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Kay: You know how naive you sound?
Michael: Why?
Kay: Senators and presidents don't have men killed...
Michael: Oh... who's being naive, Kay?
Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208077
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Santino NEVER ran the family

Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208078
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Quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
just saw the first godfather, not too bad. i'm having a hard time watching the 2nd one though.....
Too long or just To Bored?

I never seem to have a prob with Part II


Madness! Madness!
- Major Clipton
The Bridge On The River Kwai

GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled.
- Greed

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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208079
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too bored, and confusing. michael's being shot at one minute then they go to some guy who can't speak english. vito or something? i don't understand it. i guess i'm just too young for the godfather.


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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208080
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My feelings on a new Godfather coming out is this, I am glad that the trilogy continues, but am upset that the characters that are key in the story will not be in it for example Al pacino, or a.k.a Michel Corleone, he died in Godfahter 3 , and i belive that the movie trilogy was mad eto end as he died not , rebulit with a new cast and new writers, we as the auddience will not feel the certian vibe and reality we felt in the previous Godfather movies, but i will hace to see Godfather for myself to be totaly right about my theroy/feelings.

Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208081
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I think GF3 is very good, it is just not as wonderful as GF and GF2 are.
About a Part 4...
I would burn in hell to don't have to watch the series go into shit, and I believe GF4 would do that. Fortunately, I absolutely don't consider the idea of this movie be made. I may be wrong, but I'm sure FFC would not do the Part 4 anyway.


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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208082
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Quote:
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too bored, and confusing. michael's being shot at one minute then they go to some guy who can't speak english. vito or something? i don't understand it. i guess i'm just too young for the godfather.
yo pac...you need to have somebody watch GF 1 and 2 with you and walk u through it or read the book so you can understand it better because the stories in the godfathers are 1,000,000 times better than scarface....you just might not be pickin it up because you are probably obsessed with guns and fights...but trust me if you understand the story, you'll like it better than scarface...scarface really wasnt that great...i wish i could watch GF 2 with you and show you everything


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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208083
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as far as part 4 goes...i think it would be stupid with no pacino...i think 3 was not that great but was Necessary to finish the saga...GF although it was great, just ended its own story...it did not end the michael corleone saga....number would have nothing...ITS OVER...QUIT BEGGIN


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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208084
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i never even think of the GF films as a triloGy since GF III is so unimpressinG that it doesnt even count for me as a GF movie. i aGree with Mike Sullivan that GF III somewhat tarnishes the brilliance of GF I and II. as such, i´d like to see the story continued in some way, be it book or movie - to see if its possible to Give GF the endinG it truly deserves. but they should try somethinG new instead of another movie - since it would always have to compete with two masterpieces, set after such a lonG period of time. it has been brouGht up here before, and i must confess that i´d REALLY like to see a hiGh quality mini TV-series or somethinG of the kind´, fillinG in the missinG years (Santinos rise in his fathers empire, Tom cominG into the family, etc.) a series would be a new challenGe. there´s still a lot of material that i´d like to see filmed. as for Vincent, chop him into the chimney like other woodworks. :p
consiG.


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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208085
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Hello everyone!

I would like to say that all the Godfather movies are great. Godfather I and II impresed me when I first saw them. Part III impresed me, but i was a little disapointed because Michael was different. He wasn't as coldhearted as he was in part II and the others haven't had that much respect for Don, like in part I and II. But when I watched it for seconed time I found out it is a great movie.
I would very much like to see a Godfather part IV one time, but if it would be a disaster, I rather not. I thing that Gf IV , if the will be one, should be directed by Francis Copola and actors could be those who hadn't playing in previous parts. For example in part I all actors became famous after that film. So I don't agree with those who think that Al Pachino should be playing or De Niro. It's not important who acts, it's only the story and quality of acting.

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Part of the whole deal with Godfather 3 is that most of the characters you were accustomed to in the first two films aren't around. Its like a band that's been around for a long time once it gets to the point to where there's only one original member people lose interest. Speaking of which, that's why I think they had that huge ceremony at the very beginning of the film to show as many of the people from the other films as possible. Because they were light on main characters.

Also I don't think Godfather 4 will ever happen. Part 3 was supposed to be a separate title (the death of michael corleone) and not making the films into an actual trilogy.


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I tells ya, Part IV will bomb!


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With the current (2000-present), a GF IV movie would NOT fail at the box office. Most likely it would open rather largely at number one, with i would say about 25-30 million. We've had the discussion before about how time has healed Godfather Part III. i know, you've said repeatedly, that you are disappointed in III, but the casual fan anymore seems to ignore any inferiority.
A movie like this (a fourth entry in a series) with a decent cast (bringing back Garcia, Shire, and Keaton or even Fonda) would top out between 90 -100 mill. hardly a roaring success, but not a failure.
This world we live in is different from 1990. Sequels of this magnitude are much more widely accepted and less scrutinized.
Though the fact remains, a Part IV makes no sense, it is money, no doubt.

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Yeh, I would like a book of GF4 first, and if it was really good, then make it into a movie.

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It wont be as Good As Part II or I.If its ot gonna be as good... dont do it. I have certain expectations from FFC, but He cant do it.

Puzo is gone and Mike is dead.

Its not right to do it...


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Re: Is part four possible for the nxt 5 years? #208091
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Well, Mario Puzo wanted there to be a PArt 4, so I think it should be at least written as a book, and maybe made into a movie or mini-series.

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i also think that they should go with what he wanted to do. he started this whole "masterpiece" in the first place and i know that everyone here would go and see it even if it got worser reviews then gigli or better reviews then parts 1 and 2. -Pat


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NO, it is NOT possible

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I am 23 years old and started to watch the GF only this year. That means I didnt see one and two first and then saw III coming out. So perhaps thats why I cannot hate part III as so many people seem to do. III however was made years later and therefor has to be shot in a different style of film. I think Sofie FC is not a very good atrice. That disturbed me. If you find out the is the director's daughter it seems logical that she wasnt chosen because of getting through auditions. Also some other acteurs warent that good. I think part III was shot in the way films were shot in that time. But still, I find GF III a very good movie that definately ads to the other two. I mean without part III the saga would NEVER be completed. Never. Now it is.

And for those who hate Part III so much I suggest they give it a few more chances and really really wacht it and not just look. Its so interesting to see Michael being forced to fear God as he grows older. To see him baffled that all his plans to make the family legit are going to waste because of the world he chose years ago. That he remourses the murder on his brother ( very important!! ). The almost complete whipe out of the big family heads by Zasa. And ofcourse the finale on the steps of the theater when Michael's greeve of all sins he has commited, all suffering he had to go through in his life, ALL comes out right there. It is the perfect ending. Seeing Michael die after that, peacefully as it was his punishment to live a full life instead of so many that died before his eyes. Thats what I mean by watching it instead of looking. I'm sure everyone put alot of thought behind one and two,,, do so for number three. I'm not trying to suggest that people are not paying attention or anything but I do have the idea that some people dont give III a chance to grow on them. III for me is as vital as I and II.

Peace my fellow Godfather lovers

CCDevlin


"I spent my life protecting my family!"
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Quote:
Originally posted by CCDevlin:
But still, I find GF III a very good movie that definately ads to the other two. I mean without part III the saga would NEVER be completed. Never. Now it is.
it was actually.. see it this way: part 1 & 2 combined is the story of Michael Corleone, who starts out as a war hero-Ivy League student with great apathy against his father's (and elder brother's) way of living. At the end of GFII, he has changed so much (and so terribly) he orders the death of his own brother, whom he had himself forced to betray him one way or another.


There you have it, a two-part masterpiece of 'The Rise Of The Don Michael Corleone' set against 'The Fall Of The Person Michael Corleone'


Part III makes him a good guy again, in some way. It's romantisized, Hollywoodish, even though Mike get's the ultimate punishment at the Palermo Opera House-steps seeing his daughter get shot.

Part III does add, but it adds stuff it did not need. That's why a lot of people don't like GF3. The movie itself is great, no doubt. But it seems as the 'death' of Michael Corleone, or at least when he stopped being a sympathic person and became a real morbide monster, is only stretched with Part III; Mike was already finished as a human being when we see him in Lake Tahoe at the very end of Part 2!


(just think of Vito's birthday scene, only to contrast the brutal man Mike has become with the lovable man he once was)

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