Enzo, assuming he meant Manson, he did do all of that. Manson was the leader of a cult who killed 5 people I believe.

My problem with this whole discussion is the argument seems like I will worship and idiolize the Mafia because there are SOME people out there who are worse than them. It's like worshipping a rapist and hating a child molester. They are ALL the same kind of people, mafioso, murderer, kidnapper WHATEVER are all the same kind of person and none should EVER be idiolized. And Don Pappo when you say things like "God Bless the Chin" it is very evident that you DO idiolize and want to be like those people.

I personally LOVE reading about Hitler because of everything he did, a man who was 5'4 110 pounds soaking wet was easily the most powerful person in the world, that to me is very interesting. But I'll be damned if I'd ever say "God Bless Adolf Hitler" [/b][/quote]Oh my!!! I cannot believe my eyes! What I have to read! Do you find interesting what Adolf Hitler did? If you say you read about him, somehow you are idolizing him, me? No, thanks! I rather John Gotti and The Chin, thank you!
When I say "God bless whoever" it doesn`t mean I idolize him, I am not a believer of religion but let`s say I am, isn`t God good enough to forgive everybody?
So, if I idolize them, so what? I still think there are worse people, let`s say you have just 2 option, Hitler-Gotti
Mussolini-The Chin, I don`t find it very hard to choose. But it seems you rather Hitler over John Gotti. Ok I respcet it but I don`t share it. I am not your mother to tell you what you have to read or idolize, and neither you are for me.If you say you just find interesting about what he did, ok I found interesting what John Gotti did to become a Don and how he manipulated the media.I guess many people in New York are still fans of him, I don`t know how many Hitler`s fans are there in New York, unless there are neo-nazis which I don`t know if there are in New York or USA. I think this is not an interesting topic to talk about it, we are gonna end up angry with the one another, we are making this a talk show tv program or areality show program, we don`t need this Don Michael Corleone.

Happy new year.