Originally posted by don capili: [quote]Originally posted by Don_Andrew: [b] I'm not sure. John Gotti had Paul Castellano killed, not so sure about the rule though.
yeah that is true.. but i meant like first hand killing the don, not ordering other people to do it. [/b][/quote]Albert Anastasia killed Joe Masseria, and he became a boss. Vinnie Gigante failed to kill Costello, and he became a boss.