I have some questions on the largest, strongest and richest Crime Family in America

1. Who was the most powerful Don that ruled the Genevese Family?

2. What was the name of the Boss that ordered the execution of a Phillidelphia Mob member to prevent a war? I don't know if I'm making sense here but can someone explain to me the situation? I might be mistaken for another family from another city.

3. What was it that made popular soldier Valachi break the Omerta? Was it because of the death Kiss that his boss Vito delivered upon him? Was it because of his maximum sentence that he was given for getting involved with Drugs?

4. Is it true what was said about Chin? Did he walk on the Streets of NYC in his Pajamas? Did he take a shower with his umbrella open and the Feds busted in? He did all this to feign Sanity? If this is true then that's a LAUGH!!!! How amusing can a Mobster get? LOL!!!!!!

1. The most powerful bosses of the Genovese Family were Vito Genovese's two predecessors: Charlie Luciano and Frank Costello. Luciano formed the Commission and became the de-facto Capo di Tutti Capi until he was convicted of Mann Act (white slavery) violations in 1936, sent to prison and exiled. Frank Costello, imo the most successful and powerful Don in NYC history, ruled from 1946 to 1957, when he was wounded on Genovese's orders and retired. You'd think Vito Genovese would be the most powerful because he forced Costello's retirement. But Genovese's reign was short-lived: he was set up in a drug deal in 1959 and sent to the Atlanta Federal prison, where he died.
2. I believe you're thinking of Angelo Bruno, the "gentle Don" of Philadelphia, who had ties to the Genovese and Gambino families. But he wasn't whacked by NY families. He was whacked by his own consigliere after he declared Atlantic City an "open city" to prevent a Mob war. He was actually protected by the Genovese and Gambino Families earlier, and Carlo Gambino was responsible for his becoming Don of Philadelphia in 1959.
3. Valachi claimed that Vito Genovese gave him the "kiss of death" when they were in the Atlanta pen together. He then became paranoid, and bludgeoned to death another prisoner whom he thought was on a mission to kill him. Did Genovese really give him the deathkiss? I don't know. Valachi may have started singing because he realized that he'd killed the wrong man, and saw singing as a way to avoid the death penalty and get better treatment. Again: who knows?
4. The Chin certainly did walk the streets of Greenwich Village in New York in his pajamas, talking to trees, being led about by underlings, etc. He was successful enough in this ruse to avoid being tried under the same RICO full-court press that sent three of his fellow Dons away for life. But, as you probably know, he recently was declared compos mentis by a judge, sent to jail, and even more recently, pleaded guilty to having faked non compos mentis, which helped keep his current sentence manageable. The good news for him is that he succeeded in not being sent away for 99+ years. The bad news is that, despite his humiliating sham, he's gonna die in jail anyway.

Hey I think you guys are waaay off. You need to think long and hard about some issues that affect your toilet. Yeah, you heard me. ***FLUSH*** Yeah, that was the sound of all your secret knowlegde goinf down the drain. To the place where they process poo. And you know what? The "mafia" owns it.


Yeah.

By the way, this is what I'm about. So you

don't

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it.

You hear me? Yeah, I've got the facts. And they point toward a stinky 'mafia'
Nuff said.

go whack yourself up. ive about had it with you and your stupid mafia lingo as well. you can flush that right down your proverbial toliet too, right with the poo. learn some more vocabulary, geeze....

As far as the genovese family goes,they are right
now the biggest and most successful of the 5
families in NEW-YORK.They have ties to the philly
area,jersey,pittsburgh and cleveland,they have
infiltrated casinos'in california and nevada,
vincent gigante still has the power,he controls
the faction from his federal lock down in texas.he is a ruthless killer,he inserts cash into his victims body cavaties which means they
were greedy.gigante ordered the hit on frank
decicco,a gambino power,blowing up his car,a no
no in the mob world.DON VITO GENOVESE was not
around long enough to make a impact on the family,even though it is named after him.
Valachi was a piece of shit,he flipped after
screwing up a drug deal,he was gonna be whacked,
all the stories about this rat bastard and his
snitching amounted to 0 arrests.
ANGELO BRUNO ran philly at the request of the
5 families,his soft personality allowed the families to cut into his pie so to speak,the gambinos had the drug action in jersey while the
genovese ran the SHY and gambling operations, while they were both happy this did not sit well w/tony caponigro{tony bananas}so he killed
angelo,what he did not do was get sanctioned
approval from the commison,one person in particular,BOBBY MANNA,genovese counsel,one of
the most powerful genovese ever,manna and boss
frankie terri had tony killed,they found him w/
2 dozen bullet holes and wads of cash stuck abruptly into tonys'orfices, the philly faction has never been the same since angelos killing.

Actually the Genevese Family have always been the largest/Biggest of the 5 Families (In numbers of Made men anyway) since the beginning.

Turnbull? I did read about Lansky, Costello, Luciano and Gambino's plan to have Vito Genevese set up for drugs so that he can go away for life. This was because they didn't like Genevese's ambition to be the Supreme Mob boss of all USA. And they didn't like the fact that he embraced the narcotics industry. What if this plan of their's backfired? I mean Vito Genevese might have ratted them all out to save his own skin.

Well, BofB, "what-if" is always the issue in organized crime--the whole damn business is so risky! I guess that Lansky and Costello--and especially Luciano, who brought Genovese along--knew their man. They guessed, correctly, that Genovese was too ambitious, too greedy, to pass up the deal offered by Nelson Cantellops that they had set up. Another factor that I'm sure you read about: Genovese had killed his wife's first husband so he could marry her. But, according to some sources, she was tough, independent (and bisexual, according to some accounts), and she talked against him with impunity. Some say she helped send him away.
This gets to a theme that's repeated constantly in this particular board: being a Don, which we tend to romanticize here, is actually just about the riskiest thing a criminal can aspire to. There's no honor among thieves. And the higher you go, the more people are gunning for you--and the harder you fall. A major subtheme in the GF Trilogy is how the top guys, including Michael and Vito, could never trust anyone, could never be free of doubts, even about those closest to them.

Not impressed mate.

Not trying to impress you, and I'm not your mate. You're afraid of the secret knowledge.

THE genovese were not always the biggest,nor
wealthiest,the gambinos up until 96 were by far
the biggest and most succesful,the genovese only
survived the 80's because of big pauls friend-
ship with fat tony salerno,paul would cut the
genovese in on his legit business projects,
the gambinos had well over 300 associates involved with them,also not to nit pick but
you spelled genovese wrong boss of bosses.

First of all let me apologize for my mispelling. Everyone makes mistakes in their spellings on forums or message boards. It's NATURAL!

And if the Genovese's weren't always the biggest then Most of the time they were in the league since the beginning in every aspect. Every single peace of information I read on the 5 Families the Genovese's were described many times as the Family with the biggest membership.

I understand its natural,I just nit pick on that
last name,it's personal.
DO not always believe what you read about on
o.c. Every one thinks they are an expert,for any
amount of money some mook will write a book and
make millions,sammy gravano,valachi,jerry capeci,
who by the way is the worst,I think he makes stuff
up as he goes,he has no clue,even the fbi book
boss of bosses has some very blatent lies,
it's all a game of numbers,big numbers,cash.
THE worst is of course henry hill,the whole
book was a lie,he was a rat fink irish snitch,
he was high on coke and he was sucking dick and
doing blow all the time.

Did ya have to give me an unpleasant detail in your last sentence? Didn't think that was necessary. Also u shouldn't take it personal if I mispell something. And I am very careful what to believe when reading stuff on the Mob.