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Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/25/04 10:28 AM
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I watched The Godfather again, and it got me thinking, like it always does. This time it was about the scene right before Vito gets gunned down. Fredo tells the Don that he'll get the car himself because Paulie called in sick.
I was just wondering, how many sick days do you get when you're a gangster? Maybe Paulie betrayed Vito to the Tattaglias because they offered him better medical/dental coverage.
In all seriousness, though.. For guys like Paulie, being a gangster is essentially their job. How do they get paid? Are they on a set salary that they get every week? And who pays them? Does the Corleone family have a payroll secretary?
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/25/04 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Mickey: In all seriousness, though.. For guys like Paulie, being a gangster is essentially their job. How do they get paid? Are they on a set salary that they get every week? And who pays them? Does the Corleone family have a payroll secretary? Paulie was probably on the payroll of The Genco Pura Olive Oil Co. That would "legitimize" his earnings, so he'd probably get paid every week by payroll check. The other buttons had "fronts" also, whether it was being an employee of some trucking company or some other legitimate business.
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/25/04 10:40 AM
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The novel says this about Paulie's income: And then, after he had "made his bones" he had recieved a good living from the Family, a percentage of an East Side "book" and an union payroll slot. It doesn't say exactly what his payroll slot was FOR, but I'm inclined to agree with SC in that it was under some "legit" job for the Genco Pura Co.
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/25/04 11:01 AM
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Traditionally, a Mob "associate" (an unmade guy) gets permission to do a job like a robbery, or operate a crap or card game, in return for paying a percentage to the Mob guy giving the permission (as when Jimmy, Henry and Tommy, all unmade, robbed Air France and kicked back $60k to Paulie Cicero in "Goodfellas"). A "made" guy will be given a "living" (like an established Mob bookie joint, whorehouse, loansharking racket) and have to kick back a weekly "nut" to his Capo. Usually that amount is fixed, so he has to pay it whether or not his "living" is earning enough. An example: in "Sopranos," Christopher finally gets "made" and gets a living from Paulie, but he has to give Paulie Walnuts $4k/week win or lose. As SC said, Paulie Gatto probably had a "legitimate" job (driver? handyman?) at low salary from the Genco Pura Olive Oil Company, which would give him some cover and enable him to declare a small amount of income to keep the IRS off his back. His real money came from the East Side book and the union job that Wayne cited.
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/25/04 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by Mickey: I watched The Godfather again, and it got me thinking, like it always does. This time it was about the scene right before Vito gets gunned down. Fredo tells the Don that he'll get the car himself because Paulie called in sick.
I was just wondering, how many sick days do you get when you're a gangster? Maybe Paulie betrayed Vito to the Tattaglias because they offered him better medical/dental coverage.
In all seriousness, though.. For guys like Paulie, being a gangster is essentially their job. How do they get paid? Are they on a set salary that they get every week? And who pays them? Does the Corleone family have a payroll secretary? ![grin grin](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/laugh.gif) Funny post, but does bring up some interesting questions. I think Turnbull is right on target with his answer. They all had some sort of "real job" for a cover, even Al Capone had a used furniture business. Thier incomes from mob activities were sort of like "commissions" and "tax free" The down side was there wasn't much of a pension plan, but then again not that many were around to collect a pension, or even social security ![rolleyes rolleyes](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/rolleyes.gif)
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/25/04 08:38 PM
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Did Paulie need a note from his doctor? How many sick days did he get a year? By the way what was Paulies "legit" job. Was it that hard that he couldnt come to work because of a cold. Seems to me that he had a great job, driving the don around. How much better does it get. Drive a nice new shiny Cadillac, go to the best restaurants, get a generous clothing allowance, good seats for the Yankees game, what a schmuck. ![tongue tongue](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/tongue.gif)
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/27/04 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by johnny ola: By the way what was Paulies "legit" job. Was it that hard that he couldnt come to work because of a cold I always thought that Paulie was only pretending to be sick, that that was part of the plan for the hit on the Don. Isn't that one of the things that drew Sonny's attention to him having "sold out the old man"?
...there's people who would pay a lot of money for that information. But then your daughter would lose a father..instead of gaining a husband.
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/30/04 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Bella Mafia UK: Originally posted by johnny ola: [b]By the way what was Paulies "legit" job. Was it that hard that he couldnt come to work because of a cold I always thought that Paulie was only pretending to be sick, that that was part of the plan for the hit on the Don. Isn't that one of the things that drew Sonny's attention to him having "sold out the old man"? [/b]While it is true, that Paulie pretended to be sick, I believe his fake sickness was a cold, or maybe the flu. ![wink wink](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/wink.gif)
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/30/04 02:51 PM
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While it is true, that Paulie pretended to be sick, I believe his fake sickness was a cold, or maybe the flu. ![wink wink](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/wink.gif) [/QB][/QUOTE] He did a pretty bad job of faking too!
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Re: Paulie Calling in Sick
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07/30/04 03:38 PM
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Yes, I beleive in the book that they actually had their connections in the phone company give Sonny a list of every phone call both Clemenza and Paulie made over the past few months so they figure out which was the traitor.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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