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Originally posted by Scarface.1:
Wow, the amount of racism in here is untrue and rather pathetic.
Right. Because we are advocating indiscriminate violence against Muslims, and I didn't specifically blame Islamic fundamentalism for 9/11.

What is pathetic is someone shouting 'racist' and then running away.

But keep going.

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Originally posted by Scarface.1:
"72 virgins" etc
Right. Because Islamic terrorists don't promote these heaven-bound rewards to their jihadists in hopes of inspiring them to martyrdom.

In all fairness, you're probably right, the 72 virgins thing is untrue.

I recently heard the translation may be incorrect, and it may mean 72 raisins.

Sorry for the confusion (I martyred myself and all I got was this lousy box of Sunmaid raisins). Though you have to admit, the girl on the box is rather attractive, in an American imperialistic slave sort of way.

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Originally posted by Scarface.1:
I found it funny how someone could use a Stalin quote to condem these torrorists, it basically sinks down to their level saying stuff like that.
I'm not sure what a torrorist is, but I find more hilarity in the fact that "condem"-ing (that's right - when you meet the 72 virgins, 'wrap-it-up,' lest you catch a disease from Allah’s rewards) of these torrirists is met with such anger.

I mean, you've admitted they are "torrists," but I thought the thread was "racist" and "untrue?"
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Originally posted by Henry Hill:
Facism -- Alive and well in the United States of America and already in a neighbourhood near you.
Ooh! The buzzword of the week is "facism." Now, if you can actually define that word, I'd be impressed. However, I suspect you've just thrown it in there because it sounded good, and it also conveniently makes you seem so much more intelligent since, after all, you've summed up the entire thread without refuting anything! Cheers!

Here's another one - ineptitude -- Alive and well across the world and clearly originating from a keyboard near you!
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Originally posted by plawrence:
Why the automatic presumption of guilt here, and what's the problem with these detainees getting a fair trial?
You're right, Plaw. What we need to do is be entirely fair with these people, and treat them with the religious and judicial freedoms they so truly deserve.

So, according to Shari'a law, what would their fate be? Stoning, or beheading? Because, last time I checked, there wasn't a whole lot of legal wiggle room for anything like deliberation, presumed innocence, or a jury of ones peers.

That would be fair, after all?

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Originally posted by plawrence:
The views in this thread of some of the members here don't surprise me - (the one-time schoolyard bully?.....Another who was the one the schoolyard bullies picked on and is now getting even by becoming part of the herd?) - but I'm really surprised that there are those whose views I respect (altho I may not agree with) also applauding the deaths of individuals who have been imprisoned without a trial or hearing.
Well, by all means please, divulge the identities of these members with whom you are in such universal "condem"-nation of! Though, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

Now give me your lunch money.

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Originally posted by plawrence:
Do you people really want the government to have the power to arrest and imprison anyone they wish to for any reason, without a trial?
What a surprise! The slippery slope. The proverbial horse that has been ridden more than Seattle Slew.

Yes, I do think we need a Gulag...err...military prison for these non-POW's, non-US citizens for whom the Constitution nor the Geneva Convention applies.

Should I pull out that 'compassion for criminals' quote again? It never grows old.

But don't worry, Plaw. I don't think good 'ol G.W. is going to be knocking on your door, arresting you and throwing away the key without any fair trial anytime soon.

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Originally posted by plawrence:
What took me so long?

I was enjoying reading some of the posts as they becaame, I think, sillier and sillier.
Why the wait?

I mean, after all, I don’t think we’ve ever had to wait for very long before realizing your posts grew increasingly sillier as a thread aged. :p

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Originally posted by plawrence:
I might feel the same way if I was incarcerated for a few years without being charged, without a trial, without a lawyer to protect my rights, and without being able to communicate with those in the outside world.
Ding ding ding! Here is the kicker.

"My rights..."

"Without a trial..."

"Without being charged..."

I must have missed the part of the Constitution that said these enemies of the state were entitled to "rights." Of course, keep in mind that the same people who advocate "rights" for these terrorists (for shame! I didn't use any adjective to imply their obvious innocence...) are likely (though not always, qualifier!) the same people who support illegal immigrants receiving welfare, social security and other social program benefits without being American citizens!

I guess in either case, the Constitution applies to people who aren't American citizens...hmm.

So much for "we the people..."

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Originally posted by plawrence:
AAMOF, despite my dwindling confidence in our government's desire and ability to tell us the truth, I still have enough confidence to believe that most, if not almost all, of these detainees are guilty.

But that doesn't change the fact that I think they should all have their day in court and be proven guilty.

Especially if one of our goals is to set an example for the rest of the world that a democracy, in which everyone's rights are protected, is the best form of government that there is.
Why waste taxpayer money when, as you've stated, you think "most if not almost all of these detainees are guilty?"

And, should they go to trial, and they manage to find a loophole, or were treated unfairly and get a mistrial, or some other technicality, and they were set free, and then participated in a terrorist attack on America...whoa.

To quote another movie...

Anakin Skywalker: "He must stand trial!"

Mace Windu: "He's too dangerous to be left alive."

Perhaps if these people weren't terrorists (or connected to them), I might agree with you. But to deal with reason and fairness with this people will serve to do little, when they have sworn to kill our children, rape our women, and destroy our way of life, declaring absolute war on America.

And I'm sure we probably will end up seeing some sort of trials for these people, so Plaw, don't get all riled up. I just think that it would most likely serve the security and people of our nation better if we extracted as much information as possible from these animals, and then ordered them to start digging holes.

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Originally posted by plawrence:
I would hope that there is enough evidence to find guilty those who actually are guilty, and that those who are not guilty are set free.
Well, as someone said, the truth shall set you free.

As long as they keep telling us about their buddies in Al Qaeda, they'll be fine.

And then, we'll make sure they meet up with Allah one way or another.

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Originally posted by Don Cardi:
The only day in court that they deserve is to face a firing squad!

Don't copy me, wannabe bully. You could never hang with me, and now you've disappointed your friends.

Now give me your lunch money. All of you.
Double-J