I cannot believe the jury isn't going to execute Zacarias Moussaoui. I cannot believe that taxpayers have to give this asshole 3 meals per day for the next 50 years. Hopefully somebody will kill him inside prison within the first year or two ala Jeffrey Dahmer. Actually, I take that back. I hope he's killed the first night he's there.

[ Made subject more descriptive --JG :p ]

Hope thats not the only thing that happens to him first night.

Thanks - and sorry for the double topic. I see Don Cardi and I posted these as new topics only a few minutes apart.

Why didn't these juror's give this scum who don't deserve to live one more second on God green earth the death penalty? If I'm not mistaken didn't he want to die? They should have given him his wish.

I couldnt be happier with the verdict. This fucker wants to die. Let him wait it out for the rest of his life.

After hearing all of the heart-breaking testimony from the family members, after that bastard got up on the stand and mocked their pain...I just don't understand this verdict. The only thing I can say is, we weren't part of the jury, we didn't hear all of the testimony, so we'll just have to believe that they delivered what they felt was just.

I hope that when he does die, they are sure to sneak a little pork into his meals to ensure he isn't "rewarded" in the afterlife. :p

They gave this bastard life in prison instead of the death penalty! The bastard should have been put to death! Now instead of ridding the world of a scumbag like this guy, the public has to support him by paying for him to be incarcerated, fed, and for his medical treatment for the rest of his worthless life.

You have to exterminate these f**cking people off the face of the earth, not let them hang around so that in ten years from now some idiot lawyer looking to make a name for himself can make an appeal and get him off on some bullshit technicality.

I say we make these bastards into Martyrs! We should have juiced this son of a bitch!


Don Cardi

I'm content with the verdict. All they would do to this fucker, had he been sentenced to death is stick a needle in his arm and watch him go to sleep. That'd be too easy for him. Let him get his fucking cranium smashed while he's in prison.

I will not even dignify this with a posting. I have never seen a country so full of bleeding heart liberal whiny crybabies in my life. I hope the jury can sleep at night.

I don't know why people are so gung-ho about the death penalty. Now this fucker has to rot in prison. Prison inmates will probably find it their patriotic duty to make this guy their bitch.

Besides, life imprisonment is cheaper than the death penalty anyway.

If it were me? I Personally would want to die. What people should be most upset about is that it will cost over $40k per year to keep this guy in prison... he looks like he is what? 30? ironically, NYC Firemen that dies on Sept 11 2001 only made about $30k/year, some with a wife and 5 children. But remember what happend with serial killer dahmer? he will be in solidary confidement for a year or a few months, but slowly they will filter him out into the rest of the prison population, then he will be killed... no doubt in my mind, the only way that this WONT happen is if he is in solidary confidment for the rest of his life... and while I don't wish to pay for it, it will be hell for him... but still not good enough...

"If it were me? I Personally would want to die. What people should be most upset about is that it will cost over $40k per year to keep this guy in prison... he looks like he is what?"

Yet isn't the death penalty, in terms of lethal injection, pretty expensive itself?

Besides, why should this guy get off quite easy? Really, why some of you so-called conservatives are for letting someone get away the easy way baffles me. You all are for brutal rightful and vengeful justice, yet instead you're in favor of making him a possible martyr to his cause.

We denied this fuck a chance of being a martyr, and now he'll spend the rest of his life in some shithole, where as he grows old, his cause will die away, with new generations realizing that the ideological cause itself is stupid, or that his "comrades" will be destroyed. Either way, he'll be forgotten by time itself.

Besides, this guy will have a worse time in prison than your casual pedophile for sure.

I'm afraid you're too rosy-eyed, Ronnie. Fanatism isn't won easily. It may take centuries.

Well ya Lavi, but my point I guess I was trying to go for is how the world will move on, and this fuck will be a relic in his own lifetime, almost like the SLA militants of the 70s still in prison, or "Son of Sam" himself or Charlie Manson.

Besides, this fuck's prison is the big super-max prison in Colorado, where hes in his jail cell for 23 hours every day, with only one hour set aside for "exercise"....which is done in another cell.

Me, I rather be dead than deal with such shit for 50 years, but whatever.

I think it's the best decision. Sure he walks out of court saying America has lost but he's the true loser in this case. He doesn't get his wish. To die a martyr. He's gonna have a rotten quality of life for the rest of his days. Like Ronnie says, he's in a super-maxi prison. I know I'd rather be dead than that.

America, you're the better people because of this.

He will probably be in solitary for the rest of his miserable life. Two reasons for that: 1) if they did put him in gen pop, some other con might kill him and 2)they would want to keep him isolated from other prisoners of the same faith (if you can call it that) because he could possibly instigate riots, etc. And, I agree, yes, the death penalty would make him a martyr, which we don't need another one. On another note, did anyone see the article about how some prisons are rebuilding their cell blocks so they face east towards Mecca?

I don't think it's the form of execution that is costly, but the appeals process that ensues. Then again, this wacko may have waived some of his appeals.

I still hope there's a shank waiting somewhere in that prison for him, ready to slice him up soon after he arrives.

Although I'm probably alone here, and don't know all the details of the case, I don't believe in the death penalty and I'm okay with the verdict. Let the bastard rot in jail. A lifetime caged seems just for such an animal.

Btw, I have been only on one murder trial, but capital punishment wasn't an option. What happens if you get one person on the jury who doesn't believe in capital punishment under any circumstance. It seems there'd be a real deadlock if he/she is up against everyone else who is for it. I'm thinking perhaps maybe before a trial begins, the judge/lawyers may ask when the screen the jurors no?

TIS

Shame that we have to waste so much taxpayer money on him. Couldn't we just let him loose on the streets and let vigilante justice take over?

Vigilante Justice...like you DJ?

BEsides, all the cool fucking vigilantes....Punisher, Equalizer, etc...all fictional!

Also, I know many of you are into quick and rather violent solutions (which I hope isn't true with your sex lives :p ), but I'm for neverending pain to the senses, which like foreplay just keeps it up the deviation beyond the final blow itself.

Besides, the dude will be in solitary confinement, which I agree with whoever posted it earlier. Besides obviously many prisoners that would want a shot at him because of either religion or nationalistic amnimosity, but as well, imagine the massive "rep" a perp would get if he shanked him.

If one anti-death penalty person gets on the jury, that's all the defendant needs. The verdict must be unanimous. Absolutely, the judge asks before the trial begins, but the potential jurors can (and do) lie about their stance on issues.

The news shows were speculating last night that it was 9-3 in favor of the death penalty for Moussaoui.

Ever hear of John Brown?

Why can't we just wrap him in a giant slice of ham and serve him pork sausages all day long, through a tube if need be?

My sentiments exactly.

Best,
Double-J

Ever hear of John Brown? [/b][/quote]Which John Brown to be precise?

This is the best sentence there is. I don't know how old this man is, but the foresight and the actual 'act' of being in a superstrict prison for the rest of my life (and that can be many decades) is more cruel than death. I think many underestimate the power of not having personal freedom, especially of being locked away in a tiny cell.

Sorry if this sounded too realistic instead of all the inhumane torturing others wanted.

Your argument would hold water if this guy was a US citizen. But he came from a 3rd world country and was most likely impoverished from birth. I don't know how 3 meals per day and living off of tax payer dollars is so cruel and unusual. He'll be living better than a large number of our own citizens displaced after Katrina. Boo-hoo if he is by himself for 23 hrs per day - he'll probably just sleep a lot. Many others in the world would be appreciate such a life.

And I'm sure he'll get extra protection at the outset because of his high profile. This for a man who was part of a group that had no qualms about the destruction of over 3,000 lives - not to mention the thousands more families and friends of these victims whose lives were forever changed.

Ever hear of John Brown? [/b][/quote]Which John Brown to be precise? [/b][/quote]As in, John Brown from Pottawatomie and Harpers Ferry, Bleeding Kansas, the meteor of the Civil War John Brown.

I haven't read/seen all of this coverage, but heard he was totally defiant. I guess Moussaoui was bragging that "he won". I like the Judge's reply quoted from a story on MSN:


“Mr. Moussaoui, when this proceeding is over, everyone else in this room will leave to see the sun ... hear the birds ... and they can associate with whomever they want,” she said.


She went on: “You will spend the rest of your life in a supermax prison. It’s absolutely clear who won.”

And this:

“Mr. Moussaoui, you came here to be a martyr in a great big bang of glory,” she said, “but to paraphrase the poet T.S. Eliot, instead you will die with a whimper.”


TIS