Apple said "He should be made to feel abnormal and wicked because of the way he spoke of his mother in his initial post." Those words orignated from that poster, whether the phrase was adopted from me or not, they were hapily adopted!

SB, I get the impression you're one of the "As a parent..." brigade. You think your opinion on all manner of worldly issues is automatically more valid because you can preface it with "As a parent, I think...". Newsflash: being a parent does not promote you to sage status. So curb your arrogance and pay attention to the detail of this debate which you and Apple - no doubt another "As a parent" firebrand - are rapidly losing in terms of logic at least.