I feel that I've degraded the debate with your style, so I don't feel continuing that way. But I just have to add that when Iranians started the anti US demonstration in Mecca, Saudi Arabia being the great ally of the US at the time killed them all and you wouldn't hear it any other way that you've heard it before. After all, this is the leading country in screwing women's right and you easily ignore it because she has a pledge to sell her oil with the US dollar, so why mess with a puppet regime so friendly with the US anyway?

Back to the discussion, a fertilized egg can become a chicken either with help of a hen or machine. It also can be cooked, or left alone, and that doesn't make the egg a chicken.

I've far greater respect for my gender to think it is their duty to carry a fertilized egg, because you want to call a fetus a baby or a human being. A woman is not an animal that you make her carry a burden, nor an oven that you put things in there and take it back after a while. A fertilized egg is merely a potential baby given the privilege of a woman to carry it. A fetus doesn't breathe on its own, it gets the oxygen it needs like any other part of the body through blood. Pregnancy is a privilege that a woman gives a fertilized egg and it is a choice that she makes and anything shorter than that is screwing women's right, which I don't expect happening in the land of free.

Since you'd have to have the last word, I also add that I've no further contributions to make to this thread. :p