Originally posted by afsaneh77:
That's for you to say. Just a few months ago the US bombed a village in Pakistan. Apparently they were only villagers, families. They all died together. And of course it is not the same. You aborting an unwanted pregnancy is a decision you make for your own life. Someone killing you and your family and kids is murder.
Granted, mistakes do occur in war. But as I say again, the killing of children and other noncombatants is not deliberate.
And again, aborting an unwanted pregnancy is a decision that is made for two people - one of whom can go on their merry, oftentimes selfish way, while the other is thrown into the medical waste bin, never to take another breath.
What children? The purpose is to prevent an unwanted pregnancy that would result in unwanted children. As far as I'm concerned I'm not a donkey so you put a burden on me and make me to carry it without having to decide for myself. I don't have a problem with letting a fetus live on its own. If it can't, it is too bad.
However you choose to rationalize it, an "unwanted pregnancy" is still a living human being.
You for example said that SSO is not to be trusted with paying back when you are going to get retired. So you said they should let you have an account where you save the portion you have to pay to the SSO, so that you can decide for yourself, as if it is all about you. Little did you think about a child left on welfare or what would happen if you should have an accident and become disabled. How your little account is going to take care of you in that condition? How is it supposed to help a child left on welfare? You certainly didn't see that in your plan. So here, I made a perfect example with your own proposal, about those who are going to ruin the SSO. If I can't support a child, I'm not going to have one. My child hopefully wouldn't rely on any welfare, unless I die untimely.
Because, surprisingly enough, Social Security was never intended to be a social welfare program. It is supposed to be, and exclusively should be, and old age pension.
We have plenty of other tax dollars going to social welfare. Your sarcasm and example about "my little plan" is irrelevant.
If you can't support your child, there are plenty of social welfare programs, as well as charities and missions designed strictly for poor, unwed mothers. And, once you've given the child up for adoption after birth, you can go back to worrying about #1.
Though I suspect, oftentimes in the example you are citing, it would be a life of crime and/or drugs, unfortunately.
Your fine country is the result of immigration of intellectuals from all over the world. Look up the number of foreign scientists and see how many of them were students from other countries who got the US citizenship afterward.
Surprisingly enough, save for the anarchists, these immigrants realized America was a land of opportunity, as opposed to the oppressive or unsuccessful economies they derived from.
And you can also look up how many of these people who now come and get their educations here either a.) immigrate back to their nations or b.) send their money back home, rather than put it back into the American economy. Similarly, it is quite interesting that many of them receive free tuition simply for being immigrants, while the tax paying citizens of this country have to scrimp and save and kill themselves attempting to put either themselves or their children through higher education.
I wonder what happens if one day everyone realizes they better do something for their own country rather than escaping the problems and choose the easy route. That would be very heartwarming for me as well. I'll continue enjoying Danish pastries and care less for what Mullahs say. After all the main job of a mullah is talking and nothing more.
Good.
Iran has never attacked its neighbors in the past hundred years, because people would never fight such wars. Yet it has fallen to be the victim of Iraq attacks backed with the support of European countries and the US and its military defense is almost ruined.
Oh, yes, you poor victims. Because, after all, you hadn't been involved in plots to overthrow the Bahraini government, or supported embassy bombers, or slaughtered Mecca voyagers in Saudi Arabia.
What makes the US really nervous is not the possibility of WMDs, but the plan that Iran is going to sell the oil with Euro currency that would weaken the US dollar. But I guess the US always needs to find a reason to attack us anyway so WMDs are always good and if you didn't find any, you've given us a chance to give us this false freedom after all.
Well, at least we'll have the oil.
It is quite simple. Don't get an abortion if you think it is immoral. Keep your morals to yourself. That by no means is murder according to my morals, since it is a long way before a fetus becomes a human being. We can't suite everything according to your morals.
So, by your token, we shouldn't prosecute murderers because we can't inject our morals upon society? :rolleyes:
Furthermore, I've already provided scientific proof (the point of which, apparently, has soared over some peoples heads) that a fetus, or whatever stage of development, is still a human being.
By my own morals. You are following Mullahs very closely according to my scale on murder. Still, this is my morals, so why that makes you worried? Sleep tight at nights, no biggie, I'm not God after all and my judgment is worth nothing, just the same as yours.
Why would it make me worried?
Oh, I don't know, because your nation would like to start an Israeli holocaust and possibly drive the planet into nuclear oblivion?
That old chestnut, I know.
Best,
DJ
